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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: CNC] #3980477
09/17/23 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CNC
I’ve tracked a lot of deer in these prairie soil areas and seen other people’s plots but I haven’t had the joy of trying to deal with it myself…..If I did though, my approach would be to try and build up a buffer layer of organic soil on top of the gumbo clay and never expose it. This is really the idea for any soil type…..Its the same thing I do with really sandy soil…..It’s the natural process for any of it.

Yup. Grain drill or throw and mow will work wonders for those types of souls.


It be's that way sometimes.

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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: johndeere5036] #3983982
09/22/23 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
I think im done plantin food plots…corn works better anyway


You can buy a LOT of corn for what seed and especially fertilizer costs these days to do plots!!

Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: AUCEGRAD] #3983992
09/22/23 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AUCEGRAD
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
I think im done plantin food plots…corn works better anyway


You can buy a LOT of corn for what seed and especially fertilizer costs these days to do plots!!


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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3986646
09/27/23 07:52 AM
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May not being doing either this year if we dont get some rain. Bought seed weeks ago and its just sitting. I aint plowing dusty concrete.

Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3986825
09/27/23 11:56 AM
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We worked up all but 1 this past weekend. We’re planning to plant the first weekend in October. They all worked up great. Need a little rain but the ground was good.


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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3987561
09/28/23 10:54 AM
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I hate the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" philosophy. If that were the case, we'd be way behind in technology. I'm always open to new ideas and new ways of doing things. Anyway, I spray, wait approx a month and burn. The previous fall, I made sure the fields were disced and VERY level. After burning (you have to be smart w burning), I very lightly disc and spread seed. IF it's going to be a while before a rain, I'll lightly disc seed in (this works well if you have level soil). If it's going to rain soon, I'll cultipack the seed down. But I've also found that if you condition your soil (pH), and plant clover fairly thick, you won't have too much competition from weeds. IF you plant the clover thick enough. And oh.... that clover puts the nitrogen in the ground!!!

One day, maybe I'll have a drill and at that point, I'll NEVER disc again!!

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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Robert D.] #3987649
09/28/23 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert D.
Yeah. True prairie (black belt) soil has a heavy clay base. You disk it too wet and it’ll gum up between the disk blades until it makes each disc gang essentially a rolling drum of wet clay. Getting it out of there after it dries could have been one of the great jobs of Hercules. Water won’t get it out, only makes it soft. Has to be dug out.

If you wait till the dirt is good and dry it’ll be so hard a good heavy disk will barely scratch it. If you FA and get a really heavy duty disc and lay off in it you’ll make softball size clods that are hard as bricks.


There is no perfect system. Rain will be either make you look like a genius or a dumb ass.


Preach it


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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3987687
09/28/23 02:38 PM
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Spray about 4 weeks prior. Then just before a good rain making front in October, spread fertilizer. Then spread seed/lightly disk in leaving as much thatch as possible on the plot. On the plots I have the Firminator available I disk/spread/cultipack in one pass. In the past I have bush hogged the burned down plots, usually prior to planting. Now that I have a flail mower I'll run it over the plot if needed after planting. I want to minimize soil disturbance as much as possible, both to conserve moisture and organic matter.

In the past I have run a fire over plots when there was a super heavy residue layer. Then just spread seed/fertilizer and disk very lightly and follow with a cultipacker. Clover is usually applied separately from cereal grains after cultipacking and again, just before a rain.

I see no real benefit from multiple tillage passes in the fall as weed pressure is usually much lighter. I want to be very stingy with soil moisture as if I were dry land farming in the Dakota's LOL. In some years it's not necessary but years like this, it matters.


"Cull" is just another four letter word...
Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Nightwatchman] #3987691
09/28/23 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
IDK why anyone would plant plots anymore when you can achieve the same thing with a corn feeder you simply have to pull up to in your truck and fill up every 2 weeks. Dont even need a tractor, simply use a weedeater to clear out a 10'x10' area and throw a feeder up....it is less expensive than seed/diesel/fertilizer, and is less work

Also don't have to plan around weather, takes less time, not as glamorous as a pretty winter plot, but pretty much achieves the same result.


I thought when it was getting passed everyone said corn and food plots is the same thing? You saying one is more difficult than the other? No….

Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3987727
09/28/23 03:37 PM
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I sprayed my fields last week. I’m waiting on rain, so I can spread fertilizer and seed then bush hog the fields. First time I’m trying it this way, so we will see

Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3987748
09/28/23 04:09 PM
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Did it today
Planting Saturday


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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: G/H] #3987749
09/28/23 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by G/H
I sprayed my fields last week. I’m waiting on rain, so I can spread fertilizer and seed then bush hog the fields. First time I’m trying it this way, so we will see


Try not to leave wind rows.....spread the "hay" as evenly as possible


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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3987940
09/28/23 09:44 PM
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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3989000
09/30/23 06:22 PM
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Planted 17 last weekend
Bush hog, disc and planted the same day

Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3989014
09/30/23 06:43 PM
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Bushhog disk and plant. Been doing it this way forever and seems to work great still. It'll come up.

Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3989542
10/01/23 04:39 PM
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We getting it done next weekend


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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3989590
10/01/23 06:21 PM
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I actually bottom plowed my plots this year. Probably gonna start tilling them tommorrow. Several of my plots have a really good potential for artifacts and had really really wanted to get a couple of hard rains on the furrows before knocking them down. But it does not look like that’s gonna happen. Two weeks until even a little rain chance so no hurry.

Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: BradB] #3989650
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Originally Posted by BradB
I actually bottom plowed my plots this year. Probably gonna start tilling them tommorrow. Several of my plots have a really good potential for artifacts and had really really wanted to get a couple of hard rains on the furrows before knocking them down. But it does not look like that’s gonna happen. Two weeks until even a little rain chance so no hurry.


X2 on the no hurry. I'm less than 30 minutes from both pieces of property I need to plant. Hope to have everything burned down and ready to go when the magic front we need rolls in with some good rain. May be another November planting the way it's looking.


"Cull" is just another four letter word...
Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3989704
10/01/23 08:46 PM
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Bushhogged everything 2 weeks ago, I’ll probably start tilling fields (5) total next weekend. Probably should take a dust mask, I imagine it’s not going to be ideal. Then I’ll wait and watch for rain. Several years ago when we had the drought me and guy hunting with me waited the whole month of October and never got any rain. We planted second week of November and ended up with some nice fields. All others around us had planted in September and had dirt fields all season.


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Re: When are you discing/breaking plots [Re: Ol' Skinny] #3989721
10/01/23 09:04 PM
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I planted mid September and it’s super dry. I checked them today and they’re about 4” tall. We need a good rain in a bad way.


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