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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
[Re: Huntn2feed5]
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09/13/23 01:58 PM
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I handload some subsonic rounds for a buddy. It’s a 30 caliber. He’s killed a handful with it so far.
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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
[Re: Huntn2feed5]
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09/13/23 02:34 PM
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Hornady 190gr subsonic (SUB-X expanding) 300 blk works well when you aim like you are shooting a bow. Double lung, heart, stay behind leg/ shoulder, especially on exit. As long as ribs are the only bone involved, wound channel is good and exit hole is about the size of a quarter. Good blood trail usually if shooting from elevated stand so you have a lower exit hole. Not so good blood trail a with high exit hole, but that is generally true of any ammo or arrow.Exact yardage is critical with any subsonic, just like a bow. The difference in 90 and 105 yards matters. Much past there and 5 yard differences become important Zero recoil, almost no noise. Other deer standing nearby rarely react much to one of their buddies getting shot, the one that gets shot will react about like a bow shot, often short run then stop and look confused and fall over. Of course this is with a bolt action rifle and a good suppressor. AR15 style rifle is slightly louder, but still quieter than alot of bows. Don't know why anyone would want to shoot subs without a suppressor. Of course supers are better, unless your priority is being able to shoot at deer or coyotes or armadillos or anything else you want without spooking your deer.
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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
[Re: Huntn2feed5]
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09/13/23 03:00 PM
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After marginal success at several of the above mentioned options I have settled on 450 Bushmaster here. Gun is a Ruger American. This gives you the ability to shoot heavy pistol bullets... and since you are shooting pistol bullets at the velocity they should be moving they do expand.
All the other limitations apply regarding distance, etc. You are basically shooting a deer with a .45 Long Colt.
It will kill the crap out of one under 50 yards. A lot of this other stuff does work but in my mind this works better.
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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
[Re: Huntn2feed5]
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09/14/23 04:39 PM
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What I’ve gathered from the information above is that a typical subsonic round the deer will react the same as being hit bow a compound bow at 30 yards. With a 6.5 creedmore subsonic round the deer will react the same as being hit with a recurve bow at 50 yards..😂🤣😂🤣thanks for the help gentleman
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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
[Re: SEWoodsWhitetail]
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09/17/23 09:00 PM
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Haven't shot any with subsonic, but I can imagine they don't perform well. The lack of speed doesn't make for great penetration and a higher chance of no exit wound. I have shot hogs with subsonic .300 BLK and have had poor results. 223 has given me much better results vs hogs despite the smaller round.
Then there is the 8.6 BLK that has just come out...
It's a .338 round shot at subsonic speeds through a 1:3 twist barrel (insanely fast twist). Somehow this produces ridiculous penetration despite being subsonic. Like big game hunting level penetration. Definitely a purpose built round and weapon, but interesting nonetheless. Crazy expensive currently. That 8.6 looks amazing…not feeling paying over 2 grand for the gun at this moment though 😂
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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
[Re: Huntn2feed5]
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10/05/23 11:37 PM
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300 whisper with a 220 grain outlaw state exot bullet is deadly. Never lost one but don’t shoot past 200 yards. I have dropped a bunch In their tracks. When I got into subsonic doe killing the 8.6 did not exist. If your speed is fixed (subsonic) the the heavier the bullet the better. You just can’t shoot far. Recovered one from a cull I shot last year and I bet the bullet was .9-1 inch wide. Tears up the insides with the long sharp petals. That deer went less than 10 yards. 125 yard shot. Muzzle velocity is 1040. I only load subsonic so I shoot the heaviest expanding bullet i can get. A regular high power rifle bullets is useless at subsonic velocities unless you are ok with loosing 20-25% of the deer you shoot based on my personal experience. http://outlawstatebullets.com/2.html
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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
[Re: SEWoodsWhitetail]
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10/09/23 04:01 PM
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Then there is the 8.6 BLK that has just come out...
It's a .338 round shot at subsonic speeds through a 1:3 twist barrel (insanely fast twist). Somehow this produces ridiculous penetration despite being subsonic. Like big game hunting level penetration. Definitely a purpose built round and weapon, but interesting nonetheless. Crazy expensive currently. Once a few companies come on the the scene besides Q, I will dance with that round.
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Re: Subsonic rounds for deer hunting.
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10/09/23 07:26 PM
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Hornady 190gr subsonic (SUB-X expanding) 300 blk works well when you aim like you are shooting a bow. Double lung, heart, stay behind leg/ shoulder, especially on exit. As long as ribs are the only bone involved, wound channel is good and exit hole is about the size of a quarter. Good blood trail usually if shooting from elevated stand so you have a lower exit hole. Not so good blood trail a with high exit hole, but that is generally true of any ammo or arrow.Exact yardage is critical with any subsonic, just like a bow. The difference in 90 and 105 yards matters. Much past there and 5 yard differences become important Zero recoil, almost no noise. Other deer standing nearby rarely react much to one of their buddies getting shot, the one that gets shot will react about like a bow shot, often short run then stop and look confused and fall over. Of course this is with a bolt action rifle and a good suppressor. AR15 style rifle is slightly louder, but still quieter than alot of bows. Don't know why anyone would want to shoot subs without a suppressor. Of course supers are better, unless your priority is being able to shoot at deer or coyotes or armadillos or anything else you want without spooking your deer. The 190 gr Sub X bullet us very accurate in my 308. 10.8 gr Trail Boss powder will give me 1050 FPS and one hole accuracy at 50 yards. Drop is about 10 MOA at 100 yards and still groups well at that range.
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