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Agency manipulated data on deer disease #3974797
09/08/23 09:21 AM
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Tennessee - In a lawsuit filed against the agency, the former employee claims officials misled the public about the rate of neurological disorder in deer, changing protocols to avoid admitting mistakes


This doesn't look good at all

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974828
09/08/23 10:29 AM
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Doesn’t surprise me. I believe every dam agency is corrupt. House cleaning in order

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974829
09/08/23 10:32 AM
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Good for the biologist.


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Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974834
09/08/23 10:40 AM
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Manipulating data is NOT an accident.


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Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974844
09/08/23 10:50 AM
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I wish someone would blow the whistle on Chuck Sykes and get him the h3ll out of Alabama hunting

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974855
09/08/23 10:58 AM
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Sounds bout right . I have worked in that area a lot . The deer tested positive came from deer farm in hardeman county . High fence blew down in tornado few years back . Deer got out . Few tested positive in that local area but I will never believe that spread like they said . For sure not all the way into lauderdale county . Thats 80 miles . 2 have tested positive here in lauderdale county so far , so they say .


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Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974877
09/08/23 11:44 AM
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The govt lying to people, huh, thats new.....

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974881
09/08/23 11:52 AM
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While I wouldn't be surprised if what the person alleges is true, before I trust them I need to know why they are no longer an employee. In other words, do they have an axe to grind that is not related to this? Can the allegations be coorbirated?


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Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: jawbone] #3974895
09/08/23 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
While I wouldn't be surprised if what the person alleges is true, before I trust them I need to know why they are no longer an employee.


They might be vested or tenured. So that would mean re-assignment and no promotion.


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Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: jawbone] #3974898
09/08/23 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
While I wouldn't be surprised if what the person alleges is true, before I trust them I need to know why they are no longer an employee. In other words, do they have an axe to grind that is not related to this? Can the allegations be coorbirated?


From what I read elsewhere, he was fired the same day he sent the letter to his boss’ superiors.

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974899
09/08/23 12:43 PM
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“Frustrated by his efforts to call attention to the problem, Kelly said he wrote a memo to the Tennessee Fish and Wildlife Commission, the agency’s oversight board.

The day Kelly sent the memo, TWRA officers arrived at his home to hand deliver a letter placing him on leave. The wildlife law enforcement officers confiscated his cell phone, keys and laptops.”

The very day that he sent the memo he was questioned and fired.

Was the memo sent via email or was it sent via USPS? If sent by USPS then he would have been fired BEFORE the memo arrived at the Commission. If it was sent via email then it doesn’t look good for TWRA.

I’m not surprised either way, just another state agency not wanting to admit fault and trying to cover their tracks. Government is corrupt at ALL levels and it’s far from being fair to everyone. I’ve personally witnessed folks being sent to prison when another individual with a previous criminal history, and a more serious criminal offense, walks.

An officer will issue a speeding ticket to a single mother at 6:00am on her way to work but will not even stop his friends wife speeding through a school zone, etc.

In this case it appears that Kelly decided he didn’t want to be a part of the good ole boy club and he was forced to call their hand. If that’s the case then hopefully the State will clean house and remove every individual who had a part in misleading the public.

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: Lonster] #3974908
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Originally Posted by Lonster
“Frustrated by his efforts to call attention to the problem, Kelly said he wrote a memo to the Tennessee Fish and Wildlife Commission, the agency’s oversight board.

The day Kelly sent the memo, TWRA officers arrived at his home to hand deliver a letter placing him on leave. The wildlife law enforcement officers confiscated his cell phone, keys and laptops.”

The very day that he sent the memo he was questioned and fired.

Was the memo sent via email or was it sent via USPS? If sent by USPS then he would have been fired BEFORE the memo arrived at the Commission. If it was sent via email then it doesn’t look good for TWRA.

I’m not surprised either way, just another state agency not wanting to admit fault and trying to cover their tracks. Government is corrupt at ALL levels and it’s far from being fair to everyone. I’ve personally witnessed folks being sent to prison when another individual with a previous criminal history, and a more serious criminal offense, walks.

An officer will issue a speeding ticket to a single mother at 6:00am on her way to work but will not even stop his friends wife speeding through a school zone, etc.

In this case it appears that Kelly decided he didn’t want to be a part of the good ole boy club and he was forced to call their hand. If that’s the case then hopefully the State will clean house and remove every individual who had a part in misleading the public.


I think you really hit nail on head here .good post . The good old boys club goes all the way to the top of our gov. Play the game or your out .


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Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: Beer Belly] #3974935
09/08/23 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly

Manipulating data is NOT an accident.

The WHO and CDC have been doing it for a long time. So have other alphabet agencies and hack scientists, even large corporations.

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3974951
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All you have to do is look at the red snapper closures based off their “data” and you KNOW they are cooking the books.

Re: Agency manipulated data on deer disease [Re: roadkill] #3975076
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All government agencies and administrations manipulate data for their benefit. That's how they get the unemployment and inflation numbers so low.


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