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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: turkey247] #3902346
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Originally Posted by turkey247
I’m so thankful to have experienced a time of pure turkey hunting before the sport became infiltrated with politics, anti hunters, hollywood wannabes and morons.



AMEN Brother , AMEN!!!!!!!

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902373
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Originally Posted by howl
I see two ways of looking at it. For biological study, you'd want to classify only jake and gobbler, then qualify within those groups as you look for trends to figure out what goes on within a population. My area is air pollution. There are things I know about that would require years of study to characterize and which nobody is really interested even though there are issues which should be addressed. That, I think, is the technical side.

I'm a hunter who can't see detail past thirty yards and that's only directly in front of the lens. What makes a trophy to me is behavior. All the beard and spur length stuff is inconsequential because I don't see it before I kill it. Say a jake that was born early slips in when you're expecting the older you've been working and moving around on for hours. You shoot it for your last bird of the year thinking you had the old boy when that white head popped over the rise. I know I'd be disgusted. That's why I let them walk.

This wasn't an issue in my area until about six or seven years ago. Since then I've called up three male groups that had redhead jakes, short fan gobblers and a single fully fledged gobbler mixed together in them. That's not counting doublets or triplets.



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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902382
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I started Deer/Turkey hunting with my late Daddy in the late 60's. Club had 30 members.....10,000 acres in one Block bordering the River....in Dallas county. Dallas County had a fall season back then and rifles for turkeys were legal....but nobody ever hunted them with a rifle. Only 7 members Turkey hunted. In the fall 10 to 12 Jakes would be taken....Bust a young flock up.....call them back together. Spring....10 to 12 mature Gobblers were taken. Nobody complained nor were jealous of one another. Just simple fellowship and fun was had. Those were the BEST Days I have ever experienced.....and I'm 65.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902385
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This is for the guys that say they want shoot less than 6 inch beard - seen a few inch beard w 1 3/4 spur - seen 1 1/2 inch spur w a baby beard
Some times the no beard to little beard is baddest dude n woods

Full fan gets shot - beard rot happens and a 2 year old can hav a 12 inch beard


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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902388
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If you want some frustration then try to call up only jakes consistently. Not really to the point, however.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: turkey247] #3902399
04/27/23 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by turkey247
I’m so thankful to have experienced a time of pure turkey hunting before the sport became infiltrated with politics, anti hunters, hollywood wannabes and morons.



Yeah and the,,,,, I'm a ethical hunter bs

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902487
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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902516
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Seems overly complicated to me. Turkeys seem fairly straight forward to me


You yelp, they gobble. Full fan + gobble= shoot and then move on to the next one.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: twaldrop4] #3902536
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Seems overly complicated to me. Turkeys seem fairly straight forward to me


You yelp, they gobble. Full fan + gobble= shoot and then move on to the next one.



Back in the golden years one could carry binos and check out the spurs
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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: cartervj] #3902579
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Originally Posted by cartervj
Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Seems overly complicated to me. Turkeys seem fairly straight forward to me


You yelp, they gobble. Full fan + gobble= shoot and then move on to the next one.



Back in the golden years one could carry binos and check out the spurs
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I just let them get close enough

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: twaldrop4] #3902906
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Seems overly complicated to me. Turkeys seem fairly straight forward to me


You yelp, they gobble. Full fan + gobble= shoot and then move on to the next one.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902909
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Whenever I set up, I put out yard sticks in the ground standing straight up, a scale if you will, so I can gauge the length of said bird like the hunting public measures theirs, except I do it before I shoot them. I pass all the small birds and only shoot true trophies.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902914
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Y'all making this harder than it's gotta be.

If he gobbles...

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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902927
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Ain't nobody checking beard nor spur length before shooting. At least I hope not. That's as boring as deer farming.

I will walk away from a round gobble 2yo to get made a fool of by a probable limbhanger, though. That's turkey hunting to me.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3902988
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Originally Posted by howl

I will walk away from a round gobble 2yo to get made a fool of by a probable limbhanger, though. That's turkey hunting to me.


What in the world are you taking about?



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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3903011
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Originally Posted by howl
Ain't nobody checking beard nor spur length before shooting. At least I hope not. That's as boring as deer farming.

I will walk away from a round gobble 2yo to get made a fool of by a probable limbhanger, though. That's turkey hunting to me.



Aging turkeys and dominant gobblers etc.. sound exactly like trying to make it like deer hunting.


Full fan + gobble = shoot.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: twaldrop4] #3903023
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Originally Posted by howl
Ain't nobody checking beard nor spur length before shooting. At least I hope not. That's as boring as deer farming.

I will walk away from a round gobble 2yo to get made a fool of by a probable limbhanger, though. That's turkey hunting to me.



Aging turkeys and dominant gobblers etc.. sound exactly like trying to make it like deer hunting.


Full fan + gobble = shoot.

I would venture to guess that approximately 8/10 people who claim to be able to age a turkey on the hoof, in the "heat of battle" are completely, totally FOS


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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3903026
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Haha aging a Turkey? As stated above…a Turkey with a full fan will see his last day on earth with the pull of my trigger…unless he’s one of the 1-2 I miss a season 😂


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Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: twaldrop4] #3903029
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Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Originally Posted by howl
Ain't nobody checking beard nor spur length before shooting. At least I hope not. That's as boring as deer farming.

I will walk away from a round gobble 2yo to get made a fool of by a probable limbhanger, though. That's turkey hunting to me.



Aging turkeys and dominant gobblers etc.. sound exactly like trying to make it like deer hunting.


Full fan + gobble = shoot.


I can see where you'd take it that way, but no. Most people into antlers only care about measurements. In fact many of the serious ones I know think in terms of sweat equity, cell cam pics and killing on a food plot with no real hunting. The only qualification for trophy status is the tape measure. You can't measure what makes a gobbler a trophy.

That's why I'll walk away from a 2yo, after I've already killed one. Older birds offer more of a hunt, most of the time. I like hunting turkeys much more than killing them.

Re: Tweeners, super jakes [Re: howl] #3903180
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Originally Posted by howl
Originally Posted by twaldrop4
Originally Posted by howl
Ain't nobody checking beard nor spur length before shooting. At least I hope not. That's as boring as deer farming.

I will walk away from a round gobble 2yo to get made a fool of by a probable limbhanger, though. That's turkey hunting to me.



Aging turkeys and dominant gobblers etc.. sound exactly like trying to make it like deer hunting.


Full fan + gobble = shoot.


I can see where you'd take it that way, but no. Most people into antlers only care about measurements. In fact many of the serious ones I know think in terms of sweat equity, cell cam pics and killing on a food plot with no real hunting. The only qualification for trophy status is the tape measure. You can't measure what makes a gobbler a trophy.

That's why I'll walk away from a 2yo, after I've already killed one. Older birds offer more of a hunt, most of the time. I like hunting turkeys much more than killing them.


You can tell a 2 year old from a 3 year old, BEFORE he is dead? How do you do it?

I had a system that I thought worked pretty well for telling the 2s and 3s apart AFTER killing them, but the biologists on here told me it wasn't reliable. If you can tell them apart when they are still alive, that's very impressive.


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