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CWD #3895342
04/13/23 12:49 PM
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CWD as of 22 June
CWD

CWD and it's origin
CWD origin

Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895354
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I've studied CWD since 1980, read hundreds of papers on it. That is one of the very few that put the blame where it belongs....on the Foothills Wildlife Research Station at Ft Collins.


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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895362
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I’m sure some of the spread is by humans…….but looking at the first map it looks like at least some of the spread is being caused by weather patterns. That’s just a WAG but the spread to the southeast is right in line with tornado alley and how our typical weather systems move across the country…….Would it be possible for prions to be lofted into the air and transported during wind storms??


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Originally Posted by CNC
I’m sure some of the spread is by humans…….but looking at the first map it looks like at least some of the spread is being caused by weather patterns. That’s just a WAG but the spread to the southeast is right in line with tornado alley and how our typical weather systems move across the country…….Would it be possible for prions to be lofted into the air and transported during wind storms??

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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895371
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Exactly!!!


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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895380
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Oklahoma looks a little "sus"........Do they not test??


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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895390
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The effected areas in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania look like they have human movement patterns written all over them........I'm just guessing but I'd bet thats likely true for Michigan, New York and Ohio as well.

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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895391
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Lot of ways it could Spread, ,, lots !!!!

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Originally Posted by CNC
The effected areas in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania look like they have human movement patterns written all over them........I'm just guessing but I'd bet thats likely true for Michigan, New York and Ohio as well.


The State of Michigan during the 90s when I lived there allowed baiting. There was bait every where with no limits. With no limits, we literally dumped 1 truck load of each (apples, carrots, sugar beets) before season because all of our deer were being pulled to state land
from all of the bait. They now have a small limit on bait. I'm sure that stuff doesn't help congregating all the deer in small areas.

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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by CNC
The effected areas in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania look like they have human movement patterns written all over them........I'm just guessing but I'd bet thats likely true for Michigan, New York and Ohio as well.


The State of Michigan during the 90s when I lived there allowed baiting. There was bait every where with no limits. With no limits, we literally dumped 1 truck load of each (apples, carrots, sugar beets) before season because all of our deer were being pulled to state land
from all of the bait. They now have a small limit on bait. I'm sure that stuff doesn't help congregating all the deer in small areas.


And of all the times in the history of the state that's now 200 years old, Alabama decided 2-3 years ago that this was the perfect time to make corn 100% legal.

I'm not even saying I want corn illegal, it's just hilarious that with all the stupid rules of hunter's orange, and poundage limits on bows, strict caliber requirements for deer, that the one thing that's the biggest existential threat to the herd is now totally legal.

Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895427
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Imo ,,, CWD ain't the worst thing out three that harms deer the most. Pretty much not even close

Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895728
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If CWD has been in Colorado since 1960, and there are still lots of deer in Colorado, it is hard to argue that CWD is a threat of any significance.

Dr Deer, real name Dr James Kroll, says that CWD is really just Scrapie, and that it is neither as contagious nor as deadly as some state departments portray it to be.

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Idaho killed 442 deer in the Slate area recently
6.2% tested positive for CWD
66 at the time of article not tested yet


Thats a lot of deer hitting the ground for research

Re: CWD [Re: CNC] #3895820
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Originally Posted by CNC
I’m sure some of the spread is by humans…….but looking at the first map it looks like at least some of the spread is being caused by weather patterns. That’s just a WAG but the spread to the southeast is right in line with tornado alley and how our typical weather systems move across the country…….Would it be possible for prions to be lofted into the air and transported during wind storms??


step back from the crack pipe Harold.....

the first spreading of CWD was by several different states, provinces, zoos, private land owners all over the West. Later movements were by Ford, Chevy, Dodge trucks and trailers. Only a small part was by natural movement. The HOT Zone north of Ft Collins was where the researchers released Mule Deer does after they were through with them.


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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895899
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Disease spreading tornados!!!!!!!! shocked shocked shocked shocked


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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895902
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I'm still not convinced that raptors and carrion-eating birds such as buzzards, along with coyotes and wolves, aren't spreading this chit, too. They eat dead animals. Hell, even things like stellar's jays and magpies pick on carcasses.

And then they fly, chit, move around (coyotes), spread their pee and poop or whatever. Birds move around long distances.

And yet BillyRay bringing home a skull from his Kansas buck is an evil SOB getting in trouble for spreading disease. SMH.

CWD cannot be contained or controlled. Killing all the deer in an area won't wipe it out, either, if it's in the soil and plants. But, OK, let's annhilate Zone 403-B in Idaho or a hot zone in Lauderdale County ... and oh yeah, YOU CAN PUT OUT CORN AFTER YOU PAY THE MAN FOR THAT "PRIVILEGE."

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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3895915
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I'm gonna guess that the number one natural spreader is dispersing male deer from high density areas that show positive for infection. Basically the total number of young males dispersing outward and the average distance they travel dictating spread rate.

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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3896633
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There was a high fence operation in west tn that took a big hit from a tornado few years back. Apparently some deer there had the cwd. Stantonville area I think. I’m not sure when but it’s been told they had bucks that had been transported from other states. Blew there fence down. That where is started an it’s moved east now into hardin county tn an into lauderdale county in northwest alabama. West tn has many documented cases so far.how its crossed tn river is a mystery to all. I don t know any hunters that really give cwd a second thought . Time will tell how serious this will be but I’m not concerned. . Most people here still feed


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Re: CWD [Re: kodiak06] #3903577
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Very interesting information.


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