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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881101
03/20/23 11:16 AM
03/20/23 11:16 AM
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Alabama
Shaneomac2
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CURIOUS on why to raise the rate for turkey hunters.
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881103
03/20/23 11:20 AM
03/20/23 11:20 AM
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abolt300
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4 or 5 turkey hunters, at most, on 2200 acres (3 would be even better). Break the property up into four or five 450-550 acre blocks. Limit access to those allowed to turkey hunt, based on membership seniority. If you want to charge more for those that want to turkey hunt, that's fine too but unless you limit the number of hunters to maintain hunt quality, all you'll end up doing is pissing people off.
Last edited by abolt300; 03/20/23 12:59 PM.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Shaneomac2]
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03/20/23 11:30 AM
03/20/23 11:30 AM
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USA
Remington270
Freak of Nature
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USA
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CURIOUS on why to raise the rate for turkey hunters. Because it’s too crowded as is, and they’re getting more use out of the property than deer only folks. As a turkey hunter, I’d gladly pay more. Buuuut, this is also why I’m not in a club
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881111
03/20/23 11:32 AM
03/20/23 11:32 AM
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Alabama
Shaneomac2
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Alabama
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ive never turkey hunted but plan on doing so just to see what the hype is all about..
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881112
03/20/23 11:33 AM
03/20/23 11:33 AM
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Earth
TDog93
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^^^
Yea - what abolt said - 10-12 is complete cluster - 4-5 max
Breaking up in 250 acer areas b good. Usually u hav sign out zones like - stand 1,2,3 an area - stand 4,5,6, an area (if your plots named by number)
Wow - 10 plus on 2200 is cluster waiting to happen
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: TDog93]
#3881142
03/20/23 12:34 PM
03/20/23 12:34 PM
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Clanton
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^^^
Yea - what abolt said - 10-12 is complete cluster - 4-5 max
Breaking up in 250 acer areas b good. Usually u hav sign out zones like - stand 1,2,3 an area - stand 4,5,6, an area (if your plots named by number)
Wow - 10 plus on 2200 is cluster waiting to happen And I thought majestic was gonna be packed this weekend. They expect 40 members on 13k acres
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Turkey_neck]
#3881166
03/20/23 01:28 PM
03/20/23 01:28 PM
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West Alabama
Ant67
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West Alabama
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^^^
Yea - what abolt said - 10-12 is complete cluster - 4-5 max
Breaking up in 250 acer areas b good. Usually u hav sign out zones like - stand 1,2,3 an area - stand 4,5,6, an area (if your plots named by number)
Wow - 10 plus on 2200 is cluster waiting to happen And I thought majestic was gonna be packed this weekend. They expect 40 members on 13k acres Where is Majestic?
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881167
03/20/23 01:32 PM
03/20/23 01:32 PM
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Alabama
Shaneomac2
14 point
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Alabama
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We have im guessing 6-8 members who turkey hunt almost 6k acres. I will try it for the 1st time ever this season.
ITS 1ST COME 1ST SERVE AT OUR PLACE.
Last edited by Shaneomac2; 03/20/23 01:36 PM.
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881211
03/20/23 02:11 PM
03/20/23 02:11 PM
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jwillinfl
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Charge an additional fee for turkey hunting. If they are serious turkey hunters they’ll pay it. We keep our place at 1 turkey hunter every 400 acres.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881215
03/20/23 02:13 PM
03/20/23 02:13 PM
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Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Awbarn, AL
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Divide the weeks of turkey season up by assigning each week a "1" or "2".........Put numbers in a hat and have the members draw out a number......5 of them will hunt the "1" weeks and 5 of them will hunt the "2" weeks
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881229
03/20/23 02:25 PM
03/20/23 02:25 PM
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Alabama
Shaneomac2
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SEEING all these replies i may rethink my decision on trying out turkey hunting. Seems more politics involved than deer hunting.... Sheesh!
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881281
03/20/23 03:18 PM
03/20/23 03:18 PM
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Earth
TDog93
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In more than one club i hav had dickheads sign n middle of nite saying they got there at 4:30 am - i caught both the pricks - they just wanted best spot and in each instance i was there about 4 am 😀 - i waited on the pricks 😀
There will be drama in clubs
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881285
03/20/23 03:22 PM
03/20/23 03:22 PM
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Alabama
Shaneomac2
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We also wont let anyone sign out before 5 am..
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3881342
03/20/23 05:17 PM
03/20/23 05:17 PM
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Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
Old Mossy Horns
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Montgomery
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That's a tough call. 1 member/150 acres is plenty for deer hunting. However, that needs to be increased to about 400 acres per turkey hunter. On that amount of acreage I would limit the number to 5 turkey hunters max and no guests unless they are sitting with the member. To keep it fair, I'd start with the members who have been in the longest and work down. Making sure that the member will actually hunt and not just take up a membership for a kid off at school or whatever. In the future, may want to state that turkey memberships are full at the present time. Those folks that want to turkey hunt can pay an extra $300/year. If they ever decide they can't afford the extra, their name goes down the list. Just free-wheeling here.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: RCHRR]
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03/20/23 10:14 PM
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In a Van, down by the River
quailman
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First come first serve. If you snooze you loose. Let the Turkey hunters hash it out.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
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03/21/23 07:00 AM
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Chelsea
lectrode
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I was in a club in Pickens Co a few years ago. We had about 3000 ac and a decent, not great turkey population. there were a couple of years when we only had 1 or 2 gobbling turkeys. Guess what section every member wanted to hunt. Do this x 10 !!!
You haven't been blocked until you've been flock blocked!!!
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3898021
04/18/23 02:20 PM
04/18/23 02:20 PM
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Auburn, AL
Antlerfluke
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Auburn, AL
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You're the president and you're just now figuring this out? First of all, never change rules AFTER money has been accepted for membership. In turkey hunting, you talk about some serious hunters? Turkey hunters are SERIOUS!!! You're just going to have to divide up territories and the members have to sign out for each territory. If a hunter gets goes outside of his signed-out territory, that may be reason for expulsion. If a member wants to change locations, he can either call someone at the sign-out board or travel back to the sign-out board and pick another territory.
Guests are NOOOOO!!!!! But, IF... IF guests are allowed, NEVER will a guest be allowed to hunt his/her own bird and MUST stay within 100 yards of the member.
Rules are rule... not guidelines!!! And, breaking rules should have extreme consequences!
Again, you should have had all this chit figured out BEFORE turkey season. You're the president!
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3898270
04/19/23 08:06 AM
04/19/23 08:06 AM
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Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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I'm curious as to how it's going without any rules this season? I would suspect that it's not getting much hunting pressure by this point of the season.
I've been in several clubs over the years with similar ratios of land and turkey hunters. I thought the best approach was to just be first come first serve without any rules. Members were told to park their vehicle so it could easily be seen and if someone beats you there, go somewhere else. One wise guy parked an old car at his favorite spot and left it there, but everyone soon figured it out and ignored it.
A different club decided to require members to sign in for an area on Saturday, but just go where you wanted during the week. That worked reasonably well.
The bad thing about requiring turkey hunters to sign out an area is that if you don't hear a turkey, you wanna go somewhere else. People will understand that they can't on a crowded club, but if you are the only hunter on a weekday the sign in rule wrecks the hunt, and for no good reason. Most hunters will be respectful of fellow members if they know someone is already in an area. Throw the ones who won't out of the club and keep rules to a minimum would be my advice.
I wouldn't worry about not having enough turkeys for everyone to kill one. If you don't have a lot of turkeys, everyone is not going to kill one. Some will probably kill more than one. No rules will change that, as turkeys are not concerned with fairness.
Good luck figuring it out.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3898802
04/20/23 08:07 AM
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Scottsboro, Al
jbatey1
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Well, are they in a Hunting club that runs year round or just a club that only runs during deer season?
Are the guys that aren’t going to pay to turkey hunt still gonna have access to check their deer cameras, hang stands or etc during the spring? If so, be ready for the turkey hunters to bitch and moan about that ,too.
IMO, they all either have access to turkey hunt or you need to cut the memberships in half now and double the dues…..which is what I would do anyways.
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: jbatey1]
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04/26/23 04:43 PM
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Well, are they in a Hunting club that runs year round or just a club that only runs during deer season?
Are the guys that aren’t going to pay to turkey hunt still gonna have access to check their deer cameras, hang stands or etc during the spring? If so, be ready for the turkey hunters to bitch and moan about that ,too.
IMO, they all either have access to turkey hunt or you need to cut the memberships in half now and double the dues…..which is what I would do anyways.
^^This^^. Are you going to raise dues for squirrel hunters, or dove hunters? If you’re going to do it to the turkey hunters you have to do it for everyone. Easiest thing is cut membership and raise dues.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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04/27/23 09:03 AM
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Bamarich2
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I'm curious as to how it's going without any rules this season? I would suspect that it's not getting much hunting pressure by this point of the season.
I've been in several clubs over the years with similar ratios of land and turkey hunters. I thought the best approach was to just be first come first serve without any rules. Members were told to park their vehicle so it could easily be seen and if someone beats you there, go somewhere else. One wise guy parked an old car at his favorite spot and left it there, but everyone soon figured it out and ignored it.
A different club decided to require members to sign in for an area on Saturday, but just go where you wanted during the week. That worked reasonably well.
The bad thing about requiring turkey hunters to sign out an area is that if you don't hear a turkey, you wanna go somewhere else. People will understand that they can't on a crowded club, but if you are the only hunter on a weekday the sign in rule wrecks the hunt, and for no good reason. Most hunters will be respectful of fellow members if they know someone is already in an area. Throw the ones who won't out of the club and keep rules to a minimum would be my advice.
I wouldn't worry about not having enough turkeys for everyone to kill one. If you don't have a lot of turkeys, everyone is not going to kill one. Some will probably kill more than one. No rules will change that, as turkeys are not concerned with fairness.
Good luck figuring it out.
Our lease is comprised of a lot of land of a main road that's accessed by gas well roads. The sign in system for us is to attach a card via carabineer clip to the lock on the gate when you drive in... if someone pulls up to the gate and sees a card, that spot is taken. This system, however, only works if you've got a lot of roads on the property.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Broken Arrow H.C]
#3905106
05/03/23 08:13 AM
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shelby county
buzzard
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Put a club limit on birds. I'd go with a 2 bird limit with that many members.
JMO
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm"
Josey Wales
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Shaneomac2]
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05/03/23 10:47 AM
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Anniston, AL
ikillbux
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SEEING all these replies i may rethink my decision on trying out turkey hunting. Seems more politics involved than deer hunting.... Sheesh! It's like this.... at a point, the turkey hunter has to police his self. If I was in a club, and I knew anyone other than me turkey hunted, I would choose to just turkey hunt elsewhere (instead of trying to come up with some complicated system to keep ourselves spread apart). Yeah, that's unfortunate (because, after all, it's a HUNTING club), but I know myself well enough to know that I don't play well with others in general, and 101% don't when it comes to turkey hunting. There ain't gonna be a turkey gobbling on every corner of the property, and on any given day there might be one in this area, or that area, or who the heck knows where LOL. So I'm not gonna take a fluke luck chance of driving to the club and not even know if I'll be around a turkey, and I DANG sure ain't gonna stay in my area while one burns the woods up in another area. If I can't go to any turkey I hear, I'm self-electing not to hunt there. It's okay, it really is. There's just not an answer to the quandry....other than the hunters themselves have to self-elect not to hunt there, or just the personality type who isn't spun up about matters like this.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: ikillbux]
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05/04/23 08:28 AM
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Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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SEEING all these replies i may rethink my decision on trying out turkey hunting. Seems more politics involved than deer hunting.... Sheesh! It's like this.... at a point, the turkey hunter has to police his self. If I was in a club, and I knew anyone other than me turkey hunted, I would choose to just turkey hunt elsewhere (instead of trying to come up with some complicated system to keep ourselves spread apart). Yeah, that's unfortunate (because, after all, it's a HUNTING club), but I know myself well enough to know that I don't play well with others in general, and 101% don't when it comes to turkey hunting. There ain't gonna be a turkey gobbling on every corner of the property, and on any given day there might be one in this area, or that area, or who the heck knows where LOL. So I'm not gonna take a fluke luck chance of driving to the club and not even know if I'll be around a turkey, and I DANG sure ain't gonna stay in my area while one burns the woods up in another area. If I can't go to any turkey I hear, I'm self-electing not to hunt there. It's okay, it really is. There's just not an answer to the quandry....other than the hunters themselves have to self-elect not to hunt there, or just the personality type who isn't spun up about matters like this. I'm curious as to where you turkey hunt to never have to listen to a gobbling turkey that you can't go to that morning? That happens to me multiple times a season. Many times a turkey is across the property line and too far away to call. There's nothing to do but to look for another one. Other times someone I'm hunting with is on the turkey and I'm sure not gonna go in on him and mess up his hunt I count 6 mornings this past season that I listened to turkeys gobble and wasn't able to hunt them, and that's pretty normal. I would rather be able to go to any turkey that gobbles, but I don't know of a way to make that happen. Even when I hunted a lot of public land there were times when the turkey would be on the private side.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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05/04/23 12:17 PM
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Tuscaloosa, AL
Nightwatchman
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SEEING all these replies i may rethink my decision on trying out turkey hunting. Seems more politics involved than deer hunting.... Sheesh! It's like this.... at a point, the turkey hunter has to police his self. If I was in a club, and I knew anyone other than me turkey hunted, I would choose to just turkey hunt elsewhere (instead of trying to come up with some complicated system to keep ourselves spread apart). Yeah, that's unfortunate (because, after all, it's a HUNTING club), but I know myself well enough to know that I don't play well with others in general, and 101% don't when it comes to turkey hunting. There ain't gonna be a turkey gobbling on every corner of the property, and on any given day there might be one in this area, or that area, or who the heck knows where LOL. So I'm not gonna take a fluke luck chance of driving to the club and not even know if I'll be around a turkey, and I DANG sure ain't gonna stay in my area while one burns the woods up in another area. If I can't go to any turkey I hear, I'm self-electing not to hunt there. It's okay, it really is. There's just not an answer to the quandry....other than the hunters themselves have to self-elect not to hunt there, or just the personality type who isn't spun up about matters like this. I'm curious as to where you turkey hunt to never have to listen to a gobbling turkey that you can't go to that morning? That happens to me multiple times a season. Many times a turkey is across the property line and too far away to call. There's nothing to do but to look for another one. Other times someone I'm hunting with is on the turkey and I'm sure not gonna go in on him and mess up his hunt I count 6 mornings this past season that I listened to turkeys gobble and wasn't able to hunt them, and that's pretty normal. I would rather be able to go to any turkey that gobbles, but I don't know of a way to make that happen. Even when I hunted a lot of public land there were times when the turkey would be on the private side. Frustrating when one is gobbling REALLY well on the ground at about that 250 yard mark but there's a property line between you and him. all you can do is sit up against the tree with paint on it and do your best.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Nightwatchman]
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05/04/23 09:55 PM
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Northwest Bama
Ridge Life
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SEEING all these replies i may rethink my decision on trying out turkey hunting. Seems more politics involved than deer hunting.... Sheesh! It's like this.... at a point, the turkey hunter has to police his self. If I was in a club, and I knew anyone other than me turkey hunted, I would choose to just turkey hunt elsewhere (instead of trying to come up with some complicated system to keep ourselves spread apart). Yeah, that's unfortunate (because, after all, it's a HUNTING club), but I know myself well enough to know that I don't play well with others in general, and 101% don't when it comes to turkey hunting. There ain't gonna be a turkey gobbling on every corner of the property, and on any given day there might be one in this area, or that area, or who the heck knows where LOL. So I'm not gonna take a fluke luck chance of driving to the club and not even know if I'll be around a turkey, and I DANG sure ain't gonna stay in my area while one burns the woods up in another area. If I can't go to any turkey I hear, I'm self-electing not to hunt there. It's okay, it really is. There's just not an answer to the quandry....other than the hunters themselves have to self-elect not to hunt there, or just the personality type who isn't spun up about matters like this. I'm curious as to where you turkey hunt to never have to listen to a gobbling turkey that you can't go to that morning? That happens to me multiple times a season. Many times a turkey is across the property line and too far away to call. There's nothing to do but to look for another one. Other times someone I'm hunting with is on the turkey and I'm sure not gonna go in on him and mess up his hunt I count 6 mornings this past season that I listened to turkeys gobble and wasn't able to hunt them, and that's pretty normal. I would rather be able to go to any turkey that gobbles, but I don't know of a way to make that happen. Even when I hunted a lot of public land there were times when the turkey would be on the private side. Frustrating when one is gobbling REALLY well on the ground at about that 250 yard mark but there's a property line between you and him. all you can do is sit up against the tree with paint on it and do your best. When you put your back on the painted tree, are you facing your way or his way…..😁 Nothing more frustrating than having to turn your back to a bird fired up deep into the joining property.
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Re: Question for Hunting Club Members
[Re: Shaneomac2]
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05/05/23 01:22 AM
05/05/23 01:22 AM
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twaldrop4
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SEEING all these replies i may rethink my decision on trying out turkey hunting. Seems more politics involved than deer hunting.... Sheesh! There is way more politics/ drama to turkey hunting than deer. Turkey hunters CAN be some selfish possessive people and I’ve been around a few that will also get there panties in a wad if someone else is hunting “their” area or isn’t hunting how they think they should. I understand some of it but some of it I think is silly. Deer hunting is a little more straight forward on how to manage land and people
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