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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: redgineer] #3882821
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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: redgineer] #3883220
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Just checked this thread for first time just because I thought it would be one of those ignorant threads where people show their ass. I went through all 8 pages. WOW!!!! Just WOW!!


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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: redgineer] #3891532
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Hunters that take part in head shots, do so for their ego. It's not ethical. Margin of error is too small. If I were to run a hunting club, purposeful head shots would be against the rules and if a member did it, his ass would be gone.

Re: Head shots on deer [Re: Antlerfluke] #3891895
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Originally Posted by Antlerfluke
Hunters that take part in head shots, do so for their ego. It's not ethical. Margin of error is too small. If I were to run a hunting club, purposeful head shots would be against the rules and if a member did it, his ass would be gone.



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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: Antlerfluke] #3891897
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Originally Posted by Antlerfluke
Hunters that take part in head shots, do so for their ego. It's not ethical. Margin of error is too small. If I were to run a hunting club, purposeful head shots would be against the rules and if a member did it, his ass would be gone.

Good thing you're not running a club.


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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: AU338MAG] #3892068
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Antlerfluke
Hunters that take part in head shots, do so for their ego. It's not ethical. Margin of error is too small. If I were to run a hunting club, purposeful head shots would be against the rules and if a member did it, his ass would be gone.

Good thing you're not running a club.


I don't let people head shoot elk with the damage tags I manage and those that dislike it or even mention it don't get a tag lol.
Sux watching an animal starve to death and not being able to legally put it down and we've had it happen twice. Both had the jaw shot off basically

A couple tag holders were allowed to under supervision on the farm land down south simply because the town elk crossed the river and would just stand there at 40-50yds. Shot 7 on day and the herd never ran lol. That herd had 21 cows, 1 left the farm alive.

Re: Head shots on deer [Re: redgineer] #3892076
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Somebody needs to put a stake in this thread.
Skinny - can we make a new forum for *ssh*lery/trolls and just drop all these head/neck shot threads in there?


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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: kodiak06] #3892105
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Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Antlerfluke
Hunters that take part in head shots, do so for their ego. It's not ethical. Margin of error is too small. If I were to run a hunting club, purposeful head shots would be against the rules and if a member did it, his ass would be gone.

Good thing you're not running a club.


I don't let people head shoot elk with the damage tags I manage and those that dislike it or even mention it don't get a tag lol.
Sux watching an animal starve to death and not being able to legally put it down and we've had it happen twice. Both had the jaw shot off basically

A couple tag holders were allowed to under supervision on the farm land down south simply because the town elk crossed the river and would just stand there at 40-50yds. Shot 7 on day and the herd never ran lol. That herd had 21 cows, 1 left the farm alive.

Not advocating for head shots and never done it myself. But I've known a few hunters who are more than capable of doing it.

My remark was more about silly arbitrary rules by people running so many clubs in Alabama.


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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: redgineer] #3892854
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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: redgineer] #3893348
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OP was trying to instigate interest in his topic to get replies on how to actually do a thing that most people cannot do. The way to curtail threads on headshooting is to acknowledge it can be done. Then address what are the hurdles to so doing. That's why I posted those two threads with videos on headshots. When a person realizes just what they would attempt and how far they are from being ready, they are more likely to not take headshots.

Most hunters in AL and elsewhere have no business taking head shots because they do not shoot enough targets nor game. They also do not understand nor maintain their equipment well enough to ensure it will perform to the necessarily high standard.

Claiming headshots should never be taken is just defending ignorance and lack of skill. Or is it acknowledging general ignorance and lack of skill?

Re: Head shots on deer [Re: redgineer] #3893620
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Claiming headshots should never be taken is just defending ignorance and lack of skill. Or is it acknowledging general ignorance and lack of skill?


Or how about there's just no f#*%ing reason that anyone has to do it. I don't give a rats ass how good you can shoot a rifle. Deer are constantly moving their head around even when standing still. If the deer moves it's head just as you are squeezing off the shot then how accurate your rifle is and how well you shoot it don't amount to a pile of pig chit. If you can't see that then take your own advice about acknowledging general ignorance.


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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: Todd1700] #3893658
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Claiming headshots should never be taken is just defending ignorance and lack of skill. Or is it acknowledging general ignorance and lack of skill?


Or how about there's just no f#*%ing reason that anyone has to do it. I don't give a rats ass how good you can shoot a rifle. Deer are constantly moving their head around even when standing still. If the deer moves it's head just as you are squeezing off the shot then how accurate your rifle is and how well you shoot it don't amount to a pile of pig chit. If you can't see that then take your own advice about acknowledging general ignorance.



Blah blah blah

Do really think some of us give a sh!t what you believe . I blow the nose off one , he starves to death . He lives long enough he'll starve to death . So whoopee sh!t.

You wanna hold yourself high and mighty ethical then why do you cause any animal pain. I guess it ok to kill as long as ever body does it your way . BS

Re: Head shots on deer [Re: Frankie] #3893662
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Claiming headshots should never be taken is just defending ignorance and lack of skill. Or is it acknowledging general ignorance and lack of skill?


Or how about there's just no f#*%ing reason that anyone has to do it. I don't give a rats ass how good you can shoot a rifle. Deer are constantly moving their head around even when standing still. If the deer moves it's head just as you are squeezing off the shot then how accurate your rifle is and how well you shoot it don't amount to a pile of pig chit. If you can't see that then take your own advice about acknowledging general ignorance.



Blah blah blah

Do really think some of us give a sh!t what you believe . I blow the nose off one , he starves to death . He lives long enough he'll starve to death . So whoopee sh!t.

You wanna hold yourself high and mighty ethical then why do you cause any animal pain. I guess it ok to kill as long as ever body does it your way . BS


You are certainly free to be as big a lowlife POS as you wish to be. Just reading your posts it sounds like that's your true calling.


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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: Todd1700] #3893668
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Originally Posted by Todd1700
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Originally Posted by Todd1700
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Claiming headshots should never be taken is just defending ignorance and lack of skill. Or is it acknowledging general ignorance and lack of skill?


Or how about there's just no f#*%ing reason that anyone has to do it. I don't give a rats ass how good you can shoot a rifle. Deer are constantly moving their head around even when standing still. If the deer moves it's head just as you are squeezing off the shot then how accurate your rifle is and how well you shoot it don't amount to a pile of pig chit. If you can't see that then take your own advice about acknowledging general ignorance.



Blah blah blah

Do really think some of us give a sh!t what you believe . I blow the nose off one , he starves to death . He lives long enough he'll starve to death . So whoopee sh!t.

You wanna hold yourself high and mighty ethical then why do you cause any animal pain. I guess it ok to kill as long as ever body does it your way . BS


You are certainly free to be as big a lowlife POS as you wish to be. Just reading your posts it sounds like that's your true calling.



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Re: Head shots on deer [Re: Todd1700] #3893793
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Those are good points about lack of caring about shooting ability being a reason not to and also that an excitable or emotional person will have difficulty.

If you get emotional about whether the animal is going to move as you shoot you never get to discuss when to break the shot. It isn't when they animal has held it's head motionless for a time and you have to count on it not moving suddenly. You have to have spent lots of time observing deer. You have to know what it does, what it will do and where it will put it's head next.

Again, that's why I posted those videos. Those fellows are right professional about it.

Re: Head shots on deer [Re: jwalker77] #3894127
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Originally Posted by duxlayer
He’s had quite a few outburst lately that would suggest he has something wrong with him . All are perverse , disgusting , and downright disturbing .

I talked to him last night. He said he thought some folks were mean to Jakethesnake so he was mean to some folks. He said what he said was a joke, maybe not a good one but a joke nevertheless. He said he was not doing well with the whole social media thing because some things said bothered him too much. I have no idea about his religious views, i didnt feel lead to ask him. Im pretty sure hes a good enough guy, he just maybe has some issues of some sort with socisl anxiety. He said it was probably best for him to just stay off social media and i figure thats the case for alot of people. I dont know the man well but i have met him in person and talked to him a few times. I had no problem with him. It takes all kinds of people to make a world.


Well dang! Y'all done run my friend off with the head shots. Let me say this about the ethical issue.

I think its funny that some talk about ethics but think shooting a hog behind the ear is ok.. or stabing an arrow through a deer hoping its gonna hit perfectly. I laughed at that. And a lot of y'all must have a weak stomach like a bunch of girls. You can't be shooting pigs in the head or arrows then preach about ethics. That's BS.

Re: Head shots on deer [Re: AU338MAG] #3894300
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by kodiak06
Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Antlerfluke
Hunters that take part in head shots, do so for their ego. It's not ethical. Margin of error is too small. If I were to run a hunting club, purposeful head shots would be against the rules and if a member did it, his ass would be gone.

Good thing you're not running a club.


I don't let people head shoot elk with the damage tags I manage and those that dislike it or even mention it don't get a tag lol.
Sux watching an animal starve to death and not being able to legally put it down and we've had it happen twice. Both had the jaw shot off basically

A couple tag holders were allowed to under supervision on the farm land down south simply because the town elk crossed the river and would just stand there at 40-50yds. Shot 7 on day and the herd never ran lol. That herd had 21 cows, 1 left the farm alive.

Not advocating for head shots and never done it myself. But I've known a few hunters who are more than capable of doing it.

My remark was more about silly arbitrary rules by people running so many clubs in Alabama.


Roger. I can do it but won't. Those things starving are just pitiful. What sux is the Trooper I typically deal with lives next to the farm so, any shot could mean getting seen/checked so, just SSS doesnt work.
It's not worth risking the damage program for the properties.

Re: Head shots on deer [Re: Jakethesnake] #3894308
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by duxlayer
He’s had quite a few outburst lately that would suggest he has something wrong with him . All are perverse , disgusting , and downright disturbing .

I talked to him last night. He said he thought some folks were mean to Jakethesnake so he was mean to some folks. He said what he said was a joke, maybe not a good one but a joke nevertheless. He said he was not doing well with the whole social media thing because some things said bothered him too much. I have no idea about his religious views, i didnt feel lead to ask him. Im pretty sure hes a good enough guy, he just maybe has some issues of some sort with socisl anxiety. He said it was probably best for him to just stay off social media and i figure thats the case for alot of people. I dont know the man well but i have met him in person and talked to him a few times. I had no problem with him. It takes all kinds of people to make a world.


Well dang! Y'all done run my friend off with the head shots. Let me say this about the ethical issue.

I think its funny that some talk about ethics but think shooting a hog behind the ear is ok.. or stabing an arrow through a deer hoping its gonna hit perfectly. I laughed at that. And a lot of y'all must have a weak stomach like a bunch of girls. You can't be shooting pigs in the head or arrows then preach about ethics. That's BS.



Comparing a head shot on an animal to bow hunting is apples and oranges lol. Just the target size alone is the first obvious difference. There's more animals wounded by guns annually than bows and that's not including head shots.
There's no comparison to the two.

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