Watching THP and they interviewed Chamberlin. He said the research shows there is 0 difference between north alabama and south alabama or north ga and south ga in peak gobbling and peak nesting times. Said the peaks were within a day of each other regardless of where in the state the turkeys were. Guess if they gobble out before season it will at least be state wide.

Well my thoughts are clearly stated on a shell Coosa personalized for me…

Yep, this is going to be a good one.

I'd recommend quit watching thp and pinhoti and all these other "influencers" who are "influencing" people to believe the BS Chamberlain and nwtf are selling. Every time one of us watches their videos, we fund their agenda.

If there was any doubt in anyone's mind that Chamberlain doesn't know chit, that statement Ben cited proves it

For those interested, and it may have been mentioned before, there is an excellent weekly podcast series called “Wild Turkey Science”. It’s hosted by Will Gulsby of Auburn and Marcus Lashley of univ of Florida. They discuss all the research in a very open manner. There are some eye opening points made. They cover predators, habitat, mowing, burning, survivorship, etc….. just FYI.

Basically The same thru out the state - huh

Thats just dang stupid

100%. Dont give them views.

MS, AL and GA have all done similar studies to determine peak gobbling and nesting periods from north to south, and they all concluded the same thing. Being as to how I was involved in two of those studies I can assure you there’s no funny stuff going on behind the scenes or data manipulation. That’s not the results I was expecting but it is the results. There’s no significant difference on peak gobbling or nest initiation from Huntsville to Mobile. Studies conducted FAR before Chamberlain came along concluded the same thing. Now, I’m still not directly on board with everything Chamberlain theorizes, but he’s factually accurate on that part.

Call me a nonbeliever then because I’ll never believe that’s true

My biggest gripe is march 25th and i dont know chamberlain r hav an opinion on him

Heck - cut days off season - cut a bird/tag - jus open march 15 r 10

They trying to save birds - i get it - just hate they push season date back after early for all our lives

We got what we got and i would not hav thought that on same thru out state but i hav done no research on it

Heck, I collected data for it in two states and thought the results would be significant too, but in reality, they were not. I remember thumbing through some previous peer reviewed publications on it prior to beginning and thinking then there was no way it couldn’t differ by at least 7-10 days. Well, I was wrong. It didn’t differ.

We had a March 20th and it was hunters wanting to open earlier, the 15th. I never liked it opening the 15th just south of here. The northern zone opened April 1 but hunters wanted it earlier. I don’t remember exactly when it was pushed earlier but it’s been awhile that many didn’t realize when the original opener was for years.

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I like our deer season Carter and rules and hav always liked our turkey - i could liv w taking a bird from us pretty easy - i never hav 5 to hunt anyway - i am glad i still able to hunt

I just need to accept 25th amd move on - but it hotter amd more bugs and its been my experience that on march 25 they a hole lot more toward being henned up them on 15th r 20th

Birds on r off my property were not gobbling more than once r twice and had bunch hens w them already and had separated on march 25 last year - no ready gobblers to be found. They were still grouped up on 15th

I gone try to shut up amd move on - it is what it is. I always went to find a ready gobbler - that likely want happen any more - at least not on opening week - henned up birds not ready

PCP said it best - it will never b same again

I not hating on our management - just hav to learn to accept 25th - i will shut up now

Amd one more thing - guys w crap properties it impacts way more. If u only hav small acreage and only very few birds to hunt - u screwd royally. I hardly sat down to turkey the last 3 years amd most would quit if they went 3 weeks w our hearing. Most of turkeys i worked last 3 years were across creek on my neighbor - thats almost a 0 % chance to kill - but was grateful to work one

Now if u hav 100s and 1000s of acres to hunt w lot birds - u will likely find a ready bird still

What was your reasoning behind commenting about feeling sorry for the south AL guys the other week?

It’s not because of the belief turkeys are earlier down there. It’s simply because the vegetation is going to be fully leafed out and the heat is miserable to hunt in. It has more to do with the tradition of early spring hunting in the state.

It’s bad but TN has to the worst of all. They went to April 15-May 28. In southern TN it’s completely over by second week in May. KY and VA to the north end middle of May.The only two birds off the same WMA is the one I can’t get past in Alabama makes no sense to me.

And in S Alabama, the dang bull gnats will be so bad by opening day that’s it gonna be miserable. Will be 85 degrees and a swarm of gnats.

Do you happen to know the name of those studies to be able to look them up?......I was doing some reading and at least in this one study is reports a lot of variability in the timing.....or am I interpreting that incorrectly?? I'm with others on this one and it just doesnt make sense for it to be the same as you keep moving south to north and Spring becomes later and later


https://usgs-cru-individual-data.s3.../Casalena_et_al_NWTF_symposium2016-1.pdf

Ranges of median nest incubation initiation dates were as variable as 21 days during a 12-year period in Mississippi (Miller et al.1995, Miller et al. 1998), 26 days during 4 years in Arkansas (Thogmartin and Johnson 1999), and 28 days during 8 years in Missouri (Vangilder et al. 1987, Vangilder and Kurzejeski 1995). Ranges were as brief as 8 days in Vermont over a 14-year period (D. Blodgett, Vermont Department of Fish and Wildlife, unpublished data), and 7 days in New Hampshire during a 2-year period

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