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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: Squeaky] #3861445
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Originally Posted by Squeaky
If you are close to Dothan, AL area there is a guy over that way that has mix called Summer Browz. It has a forage milo, buck wheat, lab-lab and a forage pea. I planted 4 or so acres of it last year. It did really well and overall was pleased with the results. The only thing I did not like was not being able to use a herbicide to control weeds with this mix.

Where did you purchase Squeaky?


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861489
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What can be planted to grow 5-8 ft tall. Stand til jan I’m need a screen crop. I’d be great if it would back every year. Not wanting trees or canes.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: Paint Rock 00] #3861518
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What can be planted to grow 5-8 ft tall. Stand til jan I’m need a screen crop. I’d be great if it would back every year. Not wanting trees or canes.


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861724
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Teosinate is what you r looking for screen. Tall thick and comes back. DGambler I buy from Dave with the Summer Brows and can message you info if u want.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: DGAMBLER] #3861726
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Originally Posted by DGAMBLER
Originally Posted by Squeaky
If you are close to Dothan, AL area there is a guy over that way that has mix called Summer Browz. It has a forage milo, buck wheat, lab-lab and a forage pea. I planted 4 or so acres of it last year. It did really well and overall was pleased with the results. The only thing I did not like was not being able to use a herbicide to control weeds with this mix.

Where did you purchase Squeaky?



Sounds like Dave Klein mix...

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: jake5050] #3861757
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Originally Posted by jake5050
What would you plant with soybeans lockjaw


I think you need to use buckwheat, and then add some clay peas and perhaps sunn hemp. If your deer like sunn hemp, they will wear it out, and it takes pressure off the beans/peas and allows them to grow. The buckwheat will sprout fast, and give cover to keep the deer off the beans/ peas until they get past the 2 leaf stage.

The only soybean I was ever able to plant that the deer didn't just kill were eagle soybeans. But they cost $110/bag. The soybeans I normally plant are Hinson (?) , about $35/bag. I generally mix those in a 3 to 2 ratio with clay peas. Clay peas also seem to keep the deer off soybeans for me. I don't know why, but mine don't seem to key on a clay pea when it sprouts like they do a soybean.

Sunn hemp is now the backbone of what I plant when I do beans/peas. If you want to use some, I would order it now, I had a hard time last year once it got into April/May getting my hands on some.

I don't really worry about weeds when I plant this sort of forage. If you plant it right, it will be so thick, most weeds will get shaded out. I just come back in the fall and broadcast my cereals, brassicas and fertilizer into the standing beans, and let rain take care of the rest.

I still love clover, but with the really bad cold we had, I may be starting over with clover on some of my plots this spring. I generally only want to plant clover in the fall, so it has time to get a root system established by spring.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3861761
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Thank for the info buddy.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: jake5050] #3861895
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Originally Posted by jake5050
What would you plant with soybeans lockjaw



RR beans and corn. A mix of conventional and forage beans.


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3862021
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That's big money. If you have it then go for it. If you want a forage bean, add lab lab.

I want to be on a rotation where the spring crop puts in the ground what the fall crop needs. And the fall crop puts in what the spring crop needs. Hopefully getting away from needing to buy fertilizer twice a year. Urea was half my foot plot expense last fall.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: BradB] #3862198
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Originally Posted by BradB
Teosinate is what you r looking for screen. Tall thick and comes back. DGambler I buy from Dave with the Summer Brows and can message you info if u want.

Sounds good, please do.


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3862212
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BradB pm to ya would like seed info.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: blumsden] #3863426
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Originally Posted by blumsden
Buckwheat adds phosphorus and will go to seed and resprout. I have triple cropped before when it was planted by itself. Wait till it seeds out, cut it the seeds will resprout and so on. I'm planting a mix of peas, sunn hemp, milo, buckwheat, and maybe a few others.



Blum... you got a ratio of what seeds you use per acre?

That sounds like a good mix and I have 2 spots each about 2 acres that need some help. Poor soil and pH of around 7.5-8.


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: blumsden] #3863688
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Originally Posted by blumsden
Buckwheat adds phosphorus and will go to seed and resprout. I have triple cropped before when it was planted by itself. Wait till it seeds out, cut it the seeds will resprout and so on. I'm planting a mix of peas, sunn hemp, milo, buckwheat, and maybe a few others.

Summer Release by GreenCover?


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3864535
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I am going to do you all a solid. You don't need to spend big $ to get a "summer release" blend. This place is in Trussville over by the horse track.

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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3864642
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OH WOW. May hit them up soon!!


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3864646
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I ordered 10 bags of house salad. I have a 50 pound bag of sunn hemp and Sorghum already. Since I have good stands of clover, these are just going to supplement on some of my fields.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3865005
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Those are not that cheap those are 20-25 lb bags. If you are looking to save money mix your own

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3865041
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Green cover summer release is $71 for a 24 lb bag. So by comparison, these are a bargain. Just buy some legume innoculent off amazon and go. One you do innoculent, I don't think you have to keep doing it, you just want to get the beneficial bacteria in your soil.

Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: BradB] #3868200
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Originally Posted by BradB
Those are not that cheap those are 20-25 lb bags. If you are looking to save money mix your own


By the look of the price per pound, mixing your own doesn’t save you any money! They are doing the labor for you!

Yes, these are 20lb bags, but the seed averages $1.00 per pound pre mixed, so the cost is the same.


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Re: Sunflower vs grain sorghum [Re: coach2] #3868559
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The accountant tried to mix his seed last fall and couldn't make it work. ;-)

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