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Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: Lockjaw] #3849373
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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
If you are using a climber, make sure you get up 35 feet or so. That helps alot. I rarely get winded when I am that high up.

Couple things I have noticed. In every single club I have been in, there are places the guys won't go hunt. Guess where the deer go? Where they don't go. I have set up on places and watched them drive by and laughed, because I would see deer there. Guy on our lease killed a deer within 50 yards of our sign in, on a field I made, before we had to move the sign in. Saw a buck there too. At the end of deer season last year. No body sits there. Ever.

Something I discovered last year that might help. Noticed this during the rut. I had a cell camera set up, sort of off to the side of a couple different pine thickets. There were 2 hardwood fingers with a very small creek in them, and the deer used these fingers alot, because I had pic's of them. But when a buck came thru, I always checked the huntstand app to see which way the wind was blowing. 9 times out of 10, the buck came in with the wind at his butt. What I learned was he was coming in to get downwind of the pine thickets to scent check them. Often this happened later in the morning too, when other hunters were long gone.

I watched a buck come out of a pine thicket yesterday morning on our lease. Southeast wind. He was headed northwest. I was in a climber right off the road too. Right by a road into one of our stand sites. He went behind where our stand site is. So if you can set up downwind of a pine thicket you know deer bed in, and get more downwind than a buck, watch the upwind side and see if you don't see one come in there scent checking it.

Are you scent free on the days you go to work and leave and hunt?

Great info. I am as scent free as i can be. I wash my clothes in the scent killer detergent then putem in a sealed plastic bag. I use camo dust before i head to the stand

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849389
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Redcoat, I admire your persistence! Don’t give up.

If you’ve hunted 26 times and seen 3 deer I’d say you need to change your tactics.

Are you hunting the same 2 or 3 spots every time you hunt? How often are you checking your cameras or are they cellular?

First time sits have been very good to me so you really need to bounce around. Even if you’re only adjusting your set up by 100 yards. In my experience you have to scout weekly to have success on public land. The pressure on gun days causes deer to change their behavior and patterns. If you’re not scouting more than you’re hunting then you are not going to have consistent success. For what it’s worth I’ve killed most of my public land bucks in the morning and a couple of my best bucks were killed after 9am.



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Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849563
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You're new to hunting, right? I'd say you're doing pretty good if you are. Public land in the southeast is some of the most challenging whitetail hunting there is.

23-24 deer season starts on Feb 11, and that's when the real work happens. Cover ground like a madman in the offseason, bust through thickets and find the bedding areas. A few years of that will give you a bunch of hunting spots. First hunt is the best hunt. Cameras can be helpful, but don't rely on them.

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849573
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This thread shows how, over and over again, we sensationalize deer hunting pressure on public land. Compared to what? To a 1000 acre club with 15 members. To a rural but populated county where every single 10 acre parcel gets hunted and half of those from the back window of a house. Some public land gets LESS hunting pressure than private land. Whether you want to believe it or not.

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: turkey247] #3849586
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Originally Posted by turkey247
This thread shows how, over and over again, we sensationalize deer hunting pressure on public land. Compared to what? To a 1000 acre club with 15 members. To a rural but populated county where every single 10 acre parcel gets hunted and half of those from the back window of a house. Some public land gets LESS hunting pressure than private land. Whether you want to believe it or not.


I was in two clubs that you were better off hunting public land. Learned two hard lessons those two years.


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Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: Turkey_neck] #3849588
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
Originally Posted by turkey247
This thread shows how, over and over again, we sensationalize deer hunting pressure on public land. Compared to what? To a 1000 acre club with 15 members. To a rural but populated county where every single 10 acre parcel gets hunted and half of those from the back window of a house. Some public land gets LESS hunting pressure than private land. Whether you want to believe it or not.


I was in two clubs that you were better off hunting public land. Learned two hard lessons those two years.

I agree. Public land is better than a budget hunt club. A small property with no other hunters is pretty awesome though.

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849697
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Mapping Trophy Bucks by Chad Herndon is the best resource for learning how deer travel and deer movement IMO

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: Big Bore] #3849750
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Originally Posted by Big Bore
Man that’s tough. I would go somewhere else to hunt. At the rate you are going, it would be easy to get discouraged.

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849776
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Obviously wherever this guy is hunting they don't shoot enough does.

Wonder how many people hunt the same spot and give up hunting because they can't see any deer? That's a question for all the folks on here that think if a fella can't blast everything he sees.. then we aren't going to sell as many hunting licenses and everyone is going to give up hunting forever.. ruined forever if you had to actually hunt as it is told.....

IMO - this is where people give it up.

Which one is a bigger issue? Asking ya'll. The guy who's mad he can't blast one every time he walks away from the truck or the guy who sees nothing all season because of the 1st guy?


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Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849792
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Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: Lonster] #3849811
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They sell bowling balls at Academy.



Okay, that made me laugh. smile

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: Southwood7] #3849864
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Originally Posted by Southwood7

Redcoat, I admire your persistence! Don’t give up.

If you’ve hunted 26 times and seen 3 deer I’d say you need to change your tactics.

Are you hunting the same 2 or 3 spots every time you hunt? How often are you checking your cameras or are they cellular?

First time sits have been very good to me so you really need to bounce around. Even if you’re only adjusting your set up by 100 yards. In my experience you have to scout weekly to have success on public land. The pressure on gun days causes deer to change their behavior and patterns. If you’re not scouting more than you’re hunting then you are not going to have consistent success. For what it’s worth I’ve killed most of my public land bucks in the morning and a couple of my best bucks were killed after 9am.







The frequency ive checked them has varied. Some i checked after 3 days. Some i checked after 3 weeks. Also checked some after a hunt in the same location.

I havent hunted the same spot twice. Same area for sure. Some several times. But always different positions depending on the wind. Or just found a better approach.

I do think i got busted in one particular area due to the way i was accessing it. Its tough to explain over txt. But basically i would come in from the south then turn west on a trail before continuing south. I would walk past 3 different areas that look good for bedding. Now when i access. I have a longer walk in. But its all from a southern direction. So if any deer are bedded, only the ones on that side would bust me if i walk past them. The deer cant be looking at two parallel trails so my odds are better.
But i havent seen any deer coming either way yet

Ive had bucks daylighting in that area on camera. Even a buck fight on camera. So i know they are around.

I have 1 cell cam and 5 regular.

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redgineer] #3849867
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Originally Posted by redgineer
You're new to hunting, right? I'd say you're doing pretty good if you are. Public land in the southeast is some of the most challenging whitetail hunting there is.

23-24 deer season starts on Feb 11, and that's when the real work happens. Cover ground like a madman in the offseason, bust through thickets and find the bedding areas. A few years of that will give you a bunch of hunting spots. First hunt is the best hunt. Cameras can be helpful, but don't rely on them.

Thanks i definitely plan on finding where these deer ive been chasing are bedded in the off season

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849873
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I dont think Perdido is very pressured. The rut has brought more people for sure. But before this past weekend i had never seen more than a couple cars on my hunts. Never run into another person on the ground

This past weekend i saw 12.

Its just alot of places deer can hide. And even more places they can feed.

Least thats what i gather

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849887
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As someone said earlier, look at topo maps, I use huntstand, find the nastiest looking places around and think if anyone else would want to drag a deer out or walk in.....if they look steep and nasty and thick, most public land folks shy away, that's the way it was when I was in MS and La.....I killed decent deer in places no one else wanted to go into....

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3849943
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Sending you a PM Redcoat

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3850010
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Another nugget for you. A sneaky hunter would see your non-cell camera, pull the card, look at the pics, and delete any that would indicate you found a good spot. Had this happen in a hunting club, the only way I know is the guy left 1 pic of a gloved hand in front of the camera.

I make a little mount and put my camera's up higher. See pic.

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Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3850022
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If there's swamps, hit'em. Most people don't like to hunt the wet spots and therefore less hunting pressure. Good luck.

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: kodiak06] #3850547
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Originally Posted by kodiak06
If there's swamps, hit'em. Most people don't like to hunt the wet spots and therefore less hunting pressure. Good luck.

This is good advice, especially on the Perdido River. I always had good success during the rut hunting wet areas down in the river bottom. Saw a lot of deer just walking in shallow water. I guess maybe the does go there to keep from leaving a scent trail for bucks to follow and harass them and the bucks go in there looking for them.

Re: 26 hunts, seen 3 deer [Re: redcoat] #3851064
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Those deer can hear you the moment you come down the road. Someone probably walked over your area last weekend, even if you hunt a mile off the road. Some folks on private have the best land and a few the good leases. Folks encouraging people to scout until they find sign pushes deer more into a nocturnal state and into the thick stuff. Dumb deer don't live long. After a lot of pressure the living deer may only move outside of legal hunting hours. Some areas have a small window of a good time of the year to hunt. It may be tough now to figure out what is going on, but it will come in time. Now, trying to time up the correct time to be at a spot with a deer that has to find food, may bed in 40 different places, and may travel for miles, that is the difficult part. You are not hunting a corn pile, or greenfield with limited access. So, seeing 3 deer in 26 sits may not be so bad cosidering the pressure those deer have on them. Sounds about right for some public land.

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