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Broken Racks #3843737
01/22/23 09:31 PM
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Would you shoot a big one with a broken side or do they always get a pass from you? I usually would just pass any of them, but I'm having a harder time deciding with this guy.

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Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843742
01/22/23 09:32 PM
01/22/23 09:32 PM
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george county ms
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My opinion he’s a mature deer half a rack or not I’d shoot em

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843744
01/22/23 09:33 PM
01/22/23 09:33 PM
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I'd prolly give him a pass he'd be better next year.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843823
01/23/23 05:12 AM
01/23/23 05:12 AM
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Right behind you
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Right behind you
Pass

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843831
01/23/23 06:10 AM
01/23/23 06:10 AM
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Tuscaloosa
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Tuscaloosa
Pass - he will be a Stud next year

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843834
01/23/23 06:14 AM
01/23/23 06:14 AM
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Millry, AL
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Pass.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843840
01/23/23 06:59 AM
01/23/23 06:59 AM
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Sylacauga
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Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843841
01/23/23 07:02 AM
01/23/23 07:02 AM
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North Al.
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Depends on your reasoning. Can’t eat the rack. Kill it to say you killed a buck? Self gratitude worked hard preparing for it so shoot it? Kill it knowing the neighbor will? Will everybody else let him walk this year? Needing meat kill a doe? I’d pass

Last edited by Paint Rock 00; 01/23/23 07:03 AM.
Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843843
01/23/23 07:11 AM
01/23/23 07:11 AM
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Prattville, Alabama
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Myself? I pass on them.
My fiancé? If it's mature then I'd let her shoot if she wanted to. She shot one last year on her last afternoon to be able to hunt.


"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer."
Jimmy G.
Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843887
01/23/23 08:58 AM
01/23/23 08:58 AM
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Pickens
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Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843897
01/23/23 09:09 AM
01/23/23 09:09 AM
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Alabama
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Had one I let pass twice thinking I would get a shot at a "better" buck. Never did kill anything with horns that year and I still kick myself for not shooting ole broke rack when I had the chance. It was a nice deer much like that one, would have been a great 8 point with a complete rack. If you are thinking about it I would just shoot him.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843920
01/23/23 09:24 AM
01/23/23 09:24 AM
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pensacola,fl
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We mostly pass on our club We have a lot of broken racks this year.


jmlane
Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3843998
01/23/23 10:46 AM
01/23/23 10:46 AM
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Mobile,AL/ Baldwin, Al
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Pass unless he has a crap rack and an older deer.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844069
01/23/23 12:52 PM
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Hard pass, if his non-broken side is good.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844095
01/23/23 01:36 PM
01/23/23 01:36 PM
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Depends on if you're hunting meat or horns. Since I shoot an elk every year, deer meats not on my list often.
I won't shoot one in Idaho that's broken off unless he's HUGE on the good side.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844143
01/23/23 02:58 PM
01/23/23 02:58 PM
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Florida
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Pass

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844190
01/23/23 04:39 PM
01/23/23 04:39 PM
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Xroads
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Definitely pass in alabama, not sure in Idaho, maybe shoot him in Hawaii!

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844218
01/23/23 05:31 PM
01/23/23 05:31 PM
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Pisgah,Al,Jackson
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Pass

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844235
01/23/23 05:49 PM
01/23/23 05:49 PM
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Florence, Al
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Not on purpose

Just don’t interest me


BTR Scorer in NW Alabama

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844239
01/23/23 05:51 PM
01/23/23 05:51 PM
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blount county alabama
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I reckon thats the kinda decision a fella has to make for himself. Youre the only one who has to live with it. The way this season is going, i would probably kill it. Next year maybe not

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844240
01/23/23 05:52 PM
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Elmore County
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Unless it was the last day of season and needed more meat then yes I would pass.

Wouldn't hurt if that deer went another year any way I

Last edited by Frankie; 01/23/23 05:54 PM.
Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844285
01/23/23 07:14 PM
01/23/23 07:14 PM
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Past Ol’ man Finley’s plac...
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On my club, pass.

On WMA, shoot



The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 33:4
Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844315
01/23/23 07:46 PM
01/23/23 07:46 PM
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Bay Minette, AL
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I passed on what was about a 130” 10 point that I’d been hunting all season last week. He’d broken one side off right at brow tine. Had him at 15 steps, but just couldn’t see shooting him.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3844407
01/23/23 09:50 PM
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Yeah, I was planning on passing him, just needed some affirmation to boost my resolve lol. I like to decide wether a buck is a shooter or not before I ever encouter him if possible. Saves some regret of ground checking a buck and realizing he really need another year or two.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3845757
01/25/23 09:31 PM
01/25/23 09:31 PM
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Birmingham, AL
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Pass on that deer 100%. He should be a much better deer next season.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3845841
01/25/23 11:04 PM
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Sylacauga, AL
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That's a great example of another way that cameras have ruined deer hunting. In the old days, you found his track and decided if he was worth hunting. Found his scrape line, set up on it , probably multiple times, and then sometimes you would eventually see the deer and get to shoot him.

When he finally appeared, it didn't really matter whether his rack was big, small, or broken. It was just a curiosity to check out after the deer was dead. It was all about the hunt and using your woodsmanship to outsmart the deer. Now it's just about the horns and nothing else matters.


All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3845863
01/26/23 12:24 AM
01/26/23 12:24 AM
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Chilton County
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Pass

Re: Broken Racks [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #3845980
01/26/23 09:18 AM
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Millry, AL
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


That's a great example of another way that cameras have ruined deer hunting. In the old days, you found his track and decided if he was worth hunting. Found his scrape line, set up on it , probably multiple times, and then sometimes you would eventually see the deer and get to shoot him.

When he finally appeared, it didn't really matter whether his rack was big, small, or broken. It was just a curiosity to check out after the deer was dead. It was all about the hunt and using your woodsmanship to outsmart the deer. Now it's just about the horns and nothing else matters.


False. I shoot deer most every year with less than desirable antlers but they are all mature. I simply hunt for mature deer. A camera is a tool that gives you a history of each deer. Why would I settle for shooting a buck just because I outsmarted him. If he is an immature deer or a busted horned deer I let them go. If I pass them the worst thing that can happen is I never see him again. I use cameras to help age deer to make me more successful in hunting mature deer and in return by shooting mature deer I get more meat per animal, the enjoyment of outsmarting a animal that has been around the block a couple times, and occasionally a good set of antlers.

Why is it in every other sport we push ourselves and our kids to be the best that they can be while learning more about it and we criticize participation trophies while striving to win the big championship but when it comes to hunting we are supposed to stay stuck back in the old days of our dad’s and granddad’s limited Knowledge of how to manage a deer herd and settle for just being happy to shoot any buck. Just because you decide to not change with the new technology doesn’t mean it’s hurting hunting because it has helped someone else be successful in what they are trying to accomplish.

And just to be clear I don’t care what anyone decides to shoot as long as it’s a legal buck for the property they are hunting and it makes them happy.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3846016
01/26/23 10:11 AM
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Like it or not, it has always been about the horns when speaking strictly of the deer we are after. Everybody dreams of that giant buck stepping into view. Even the guys I know who claim it's only about the meat are FOS.

EDIT: I should mention that I know people who just like to shoot deer.....any deer.

Last edited by daylate; 01/26/23 10:12 AM.
Re: Broken Racks [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #3846049
01/26/23 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by poorcountrypreacher


That's a great example of another way that cameras have ruined deer hunting. In the old days, you found his track and decided if he was worth hunting. Found his scrape line, set up on it , probably multiple times, and then sometimes you would eventually see the deer and get to shoot him.

When he finally appeared, it didn't really matter whether his rack was big, small, or broken. It was just a curiosity to check out after the deer was dead. It was all about the hunt and using your woodsmanship to outsmart the deer. Now it's just about the horns and nothing else matters.


No, it's still the same hunting, we just don't shoot every deer we see now. I'll outsmart the deer, but then if I decide he's either no mature, or has a broken rack and will be much bigger after another year, then I just won't kill him. I often will see 10+ deer and multiple racked bucks on a hunt, I just don't feel the need to kill everything with horns. I already have 6 deer in the freezer, so I don't need any more meat and can afford to let the small ones go in hopes of there being a bigger one behind him. It's as simple as that.

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Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3846053
01/26/23 11:03 AM
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There's a lot of people in this thread with either

Huge amounts of property to hunt on

Ideal neighbors that don't shoot just anything

A skewed view on how likely it is for a buck to survive to the next year


I don't have any of those, so if I see a deer with a good half rack he's going down. Like I said earlier in this thread I made that mistake a couple of years ago and I shouldn't have. He probably would have been one of the larger deer I would have killed off that property.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3846077
01/26/23 11:27 AM
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That's a good point. Your situation definitely makes a difference. I have two properties I hunt. The one he's on is roughly 400 acres and has neighbors around that hunt, but I've just seen a great survival rate on mature bucks over the past couple years, so I think he's got a good chance at making it. I have pictures of 4 other better bucks on the property, so I don't have an issue passing him. If he makes it he makes, if not so be it. My other property is only 20 acres and very difficult to hunt. I would shoot him in heartbeat there. I have other big bucks in that area and he would still have a good chance at surviving based on past experience, but the chances of me ever getting another shot opportunity would be very small, and he's still a fine buck as is. It's all situational.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: dirkdaddy] #3846175
01/26/23 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dirkdaddy
There's a lot of people in this thread with either

Huge amounts of property to hunt on

Ideal neighbors that don't shoot just anything

A skewed view on how likely it is for a buck to survive to the next year


I don't have any of those, so if I see a deer with a good half rack he's going down. Like I said earlier in this thread I made that mistake a couple of years ago and I shouldn't have. He probably would have been one of the larger deer I would have killed off that property.


A sure fire way to guarantee that buck won’t make it to the next season is to shoot it.


We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870

Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
Re: Broken Racks [Re: BCLC] #3846178
01/26/23 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BCLC


A sure fire way to guarantee that buck won’t make it to the next season is to shoot it.


Yep...... thumbup


We dont rent pigs
Re: Broken Racks [Re: EmeraldTides] #3846298
01/26/23 04:32 PM
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The way I look at it is a little different than most. On my family land there isn’t any rules. Me and my granddaddy plant the plot and put out the corn every year and anyone in the family or any friends are welcome to hunt. They can shoot whatever they want. Even though I have money and time invested in it, I never pull the trigger unless my granddaddy tells me to go kill him a deer because nobody else has given him any of the meat. I will not shoot a buck if I do go because I would saw off the horns and throw them in the shed and not be proud of them. Someone else may see that deer as a trophy.

I was probably 19 when it clicked for me. I had killed a lot of deer but very few bucks bigger than a 6 point. I was hunting by my house and a little 4 point came by and I decided not to shoot because I had a decent 8 point I was hunting coming in pretty regularly. That little 4 point crossed the landline and a 50 something year old man shot him. I went over to help him after dark and he was still shaking. We blood trailed it probably 40 yards out of the patch and he was just as proud of that 4 point as humanly possible. That’s when I decided that I wouldn’t ever shoot a buck out of greed again. It was a trophy for him and I almost took that away by me shooting just because someone else may.

Re: Broken Racks [Re: BayedUp] #3846408
01/26/23 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BayedUp
The way I look at it is a little different than most. On my family land there isn’t any rules. Me and my granddaddy plant the plot and put out the corn every year and anyone in the family or any friends are welcome to hunt. They can shoot whatever they want. Even though I have money and time invested in it, I never pull the trigger unless my granddaddy tells me to go kill him a deer because nobody else has given him any of the meat. I will not shoot a buck if I do go because I would saw off the horns and throw them in the shed and not be proud of them. Someone else may see that deer as a trophy.

I was probably 19 when it clicked for me. I had killed a lot of deer but very few bucks bigger than a 6 point. I was hunting by my house and a little 4 point came by and I decided not to shoot because I had a decent 8 point I was hunting coming in pretty regularly. That little 4 point crossed the landline and a 50 something year old man shot him. I went over to help him after dark and he was still shaking. We blood trailed it probably 40 yards out of the patch and he was just as proud of that 4 point as humanly possible. That’s when I decided that I wouldn’t ever shoot a buck out of greed again. It was a trophy for him and I almost took that away by me shooting just because someone else may.


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