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Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Frankie] #3803582
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Matt , lol funny all the talk , all the study and research and it alllllll come's down to trigger control

Or lack thereof in some cases too. šŸ˜‚

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Mbrock] #3803603
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by CNC
Meanwhile the overall population across the state continues to decline.....Keep on shooting them though....nothing to see here.

You have data to back that up? What areas? The whole state? Just in your area?

That is a very broad statement and entirely inaccurate. Deer populations continue to grow in large areas of the state.


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Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3803657
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Serious question:

How do you know how many deer you have on your property?

Always wondered that

Sometimes I sit out there all day and see 10 deer. Sometimes I go out there and see 0

I hunted every day from 11/17-11/26 on 3 different properties

Thigpen Hill SOA, some forever wild property in Dallas county, and my grandfathers property on the Dallas-Perry county line

I never saw a single deer. Neither did my guest I brought with me. He hunted with me on all 3 properties

Are we bad hunters? Maybe...but eventually I wouldā€™ve thought one would at least kinda wander by

What yā€™all make of that?

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Nightwatchman] #3803664
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Serious question:

How do you know how many deer you have on your property?

Always wondered that

Sometimes I sit out there all day and see 10 deer. Sometimes I go out there and see 0

I hunted every day from 11/17-11/26 on 3 different properties

Thigpen Hill SOA, some forever wild property in Dallas county, and my grandfathers property on the Dallas-Perry county line

I never saw a single deer. Neither did my guest I brought with me. He hunted with me on all 3 properties

Are we bad hunters? Maybe...but eventually I wouldā€™ve thought one would at least kinda wander by

What yā€™all make of that?



I don't know , there's a 30ac spot next to ours that I hunted for 30 years and I never killed a deer on it or coming off it . 200 yards away I've killed trucks loads .

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Frankie] #3803666
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
Serious question:

How do you know how many deer you have on your property?

Always wondered that

Sometimes I sit out there all day and see 10 deer. Sometimes I go out there and see 0

I hunted every day from 11/17-11/26 on 3 different properties

Thigpen Hill SOA, some forever wild property in Dallas county, and my grandfathers property on the Dallas-Perry county line

I never saw a single deer. Neither did my guest I brought with me. He hunted with me on all 3 properties

Are we bad hunters? Maybe...but eventually I wouldā€™ve thought one would at least kinda wander by

What yā€™all make of that?



I don't know , there's a 30ac spot next to ours that I hunted for 30 years and I never killed a deer on it or coming off it . 200 yards away I've killed trucks loads .


I just did what Iā€™ve always done. Tried to hunt acorns dropping close to thick cover. Hell it ainā€™t rocket science to get some kind of deer in front of you and I couldnā€™t manage to do it in almost 9 days on 3 different properties in the black belt

Donā€™t get it at all

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3803676
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Managing deer and not killing does lolšŸ˜‚ now thatā€™s funny


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Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3803679
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Nightwatchman,,,,, don't know what to say on that one .

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Frankie] #3803684
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Nightwatchman,,,,, don't know what to say on that one .



Me either brother. Donā€™t make no sense

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Mbrock] #3803686
12/04/22 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by CNC
Meanwhile the overall population across the state continues to decline.....Keep on shooting them though....nothing to see here.


The TN valley certainly needed the limited doe harvest opportunities and they got it. You canā€™t have an unlimited antlerless bag limit an entire season length with most properties being 40-100 acres in open habitat. Thatā€™s a recipe for disaster.


Whole bunch of truth in that statement.

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3803822
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I never understood someone not killing a doe because ā€œshe might give birth to the next world recordā€
How do you know you arenā€™t killing the buck that will sure the next world record?
Like the does are having virgin births. Those same people saying that probably shoot cull bucks too. Talk about not making any sense.

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3803857
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I love shooting and eating does! I'd be happy to help you with your problem JWalker. I won't even charge a management consulting fee lol.

Edit: You could probably make a grand or so leasing doe hunting rights on your land. You just need to make sure they are disciplined hunters who won't shoot your bucks.

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Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3803938
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We seem to have 50 50 ratio.

We are shooting bucks for meat this year.

Leave the baby makers be.

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Frankie] #3803947
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Originally Posted by Frankie
Matt , lol funny all the talk , all the study and research and it alllllll come's down to trigger control


Well said! Said before! Will be said again!


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Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: Whild_Bill] #3803973
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Originally Posted by Whild_Bill
Managing deer and not killing does lolšŸ˜‚ now thatā€™s funny


Me and a buddy bow hunted 2 fields a couple weeks ago.

Between us we saw 24 racked bucks and 25 does.

Do you think we need to shoot every doe we see?

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3803991
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Id be happy if we had nothin but does.. but we aint got nothin but armadillers..let me just complain about havin toooo many deerā€¦wheres my monicle an top hat.. rofl


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Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: CarbonClimber1] #3803994
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Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Id be happy if we had nothin but does.. but we aint got nothin but armadillers..let me just complain about havin toooo many deerā€¦wheres my monicle an top hat.. rofl

I would be happy as crap with the situation except for the lack of bucks this year. If there were 30 bucks and 30 does, that would be great.

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: oldbowhunter] #3804010
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Originally Posted by oldbowhunter
Originally Posted by Whild_Bill
Managing deer and not killing does lolšŸ˜‚ now thatā€™s funny


Me and a buddy bow hunted 2 fields a couple weeks ago.

Between us we saw 24 racked bucks and 25 does.

Do you think we need to shoot every doe we see?



Honestly there's no way we can answer that

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3804704
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Heck I wish we could complain about too many does. We have the opposite problem with property being very buck heavy. I don't see us having much of a rut...gonna be fast and furious.


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Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: DGAMBLER] #3804787
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Originally Posted by DGAMBLER
Heck I wish we could complain about too many does. We have the opposite problem with property being very buck heavy. I don't see us having much of a rut...gonna be fast and furious.


I had one piece of property that was like that. You better kill your bucks before the rut or it wasnā€™t gonna happen until they came back home and were back feeding again. Normally when the rut started kicking in all the bucks would leave for a few weeks and what didnā€™t get shot would come back home. I had another piece like that and it had some of the best rut action but it lasted about two or three days and it was over

Re: Too many does, not enough bucks [Re: jwalker77] #3804851
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This is my first year on the 200 acres I leased. Trying to figure it out before I start shooting. In 3 sits Iā€™ve seen 32 deer. 5 bucks but only 2 racks, both small. Rest does and yearlings. Iā€™m gonna try and take 2 or 3 but being such a small tract, I hate to shoot and blow the place up. One reason Iā€™m seeing a lot of deer is that pressure has historically been really low and Iā€™m trying to keep it that way. I know the rut is screwed up on this place. I had a spotted fawn on camera on April 22nd.


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