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Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... #3775150
10/29/22 10:00 AM
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This is just my opinion, but honestly I think he has a really tough row to hoe. Why is this Irishguy, you ask...

Well as fun as it is for many folks to cheer "Freedom of Speech! Yaay! Elon, 'Conan the Libertarian' is in charge now!" There is now a challenge for him. And that challenge is to run Twitter as free as possible and yet still make money. After all, when it's all said and done, a business needs to make money or it will die. If that happens even a rich and powerful guy like him will cast it aside, learn his lesson and move on to the next challenge.

Twitter is still going to have to be censored. We can talk about free speech all we want, but it will still have to be censored at some level. There are still batshit crazy people on both sides of the political spectrum, and giving those people a voice is going to be a total shitshow. Advertisers will bail and revenue will drop to nothing. It takes money to run an operation like Twitter and even Elon isn't a bottomless bank.

That leaves the question, who gets censored? Where are the lines going to have to be drawn?

Even with the relative freedom to post goofy stuff on here, Skinny still has to censor this place.

It's kind of like bitching about your property owners association or bitching about the little league coaches. Sure, of course they are doing a bad job, but do you really want that job yourself? Hell no you don't, because it's a thankless job. Owning Twitter is going to be like that... No matter what you do, no matter how you try to herd the cats on there, no one is going to be saying, "Boy Twitter sure is being run well now."

By the way, GM has already pulled advertising. For no other reason than Elon bought it. Big corporations are risk adverse. They can't afford any kind of controversy.

Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775153
10/29/22 10:03 AM
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It definitely isn’t gonna be easy but I’m sure he’s thought about all that…


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Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775160
10/29/22 10:10 AM
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Yup read about GM this morning. Government woke Motors

It’ll be a chit show for a while especially in light of Alex Jones being sued and losing


“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775161
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He dont care about making more money, and he does not care about Twitter making money or going in the red for the next 200 years.
Folks have to understand that. He could literally buy half of Texas, but that is not fun.
Sometimes you buy things that you know will never re-coup the money you put into those things. Like a boat or a hooker. You never get the money back but you get the VALUE.
That is what he is doing with Twitter. He is so stupid rich that just the action of him taking it over is worth it.


Never Trust Government

"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775164
10/29/22 10:13 AM
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Honestly, If I had his money, I would have bought Facebook and shut it off just to see the entire World explode in a panic.


Never Trust Government

"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Skinny] #3775167
10/29/22 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Honestly, If I had his money, I would have bought Facebook and shut it off just to see the entire World explode in a panic.



MySpace would’ve reared up again


“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Skinny] #3775168
10/29/22 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Skinny
He dont care about making more money, and he does not care about Twitter making money or going in the red for the next 200 years.
Folks have to understand that. He could literally buy half of Texas, but that is not fun.
Sometimes you buy things that you know will never re-coup the money you put into those things. Like a boat or a hooker. You never get the money back but you get the VALUE.
That is what he is doing with Twitter. He is so stupid rich that just the action of him taking it over is worth it.



Agreed he’s just messing with folks


“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775174
10/29/22 10:25 AM
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Censorship was not the problem, censoring only the opposing view and opinions was the problem. You could tweet just about anything along as it followed their narrative. A fairly administered Twitter would be beneficial to freedom and democracy worldwide

Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775177
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I saw something this week that said ad sales on Truth have bumped Trump back up into the Forbes 400 or something like that. So GM can kiss it.

Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: ronfromramer] #3775178
10/29/22 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Censorship was not the problem, censoring only the opposing view and opinions was the problem. You could tweet just about anything along as it followed their narrative. A fairly administered Twitter would be beneficial to freedom and democracy worldwide


BINGO


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Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Skinny] #3775179
10/29/22 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Skinny
He dont care about making more money, and he does not care about Twitter making money or going in the red for the next 200 years.
Folks have to understand that. He could literally buy half of Texas, but that is not fun.
Sometimes you buy things that you know will never re-coup the money you put into those things. Like a boat or a hooker. You never get the money back but you get the VALUE.
That is what he is doing with Twitter. He is so stupid rich that just the action of him taking it over is worth it.

^^^^^^^^


In your darkest hour when the demons come, call on me brother and we'll fight them together.
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775182
10/29/22 10:40 AM
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I wouldn’t bet against the dude.

Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775185
10/29/22 10:47 AM
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I’ve honestly never understood why big corporations worry about controversy. And when they do, they seem to lean to the 10% and in doing so piss off the 90% that matters, which creates massive controversy.


Last edited by 3toe; 10/29/22 10:48 AM.
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: jmj120] #3775186
10/29/22 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jmj120
I wouldn’t bet against the dude.


Exactly my thoughts.
He doesn’t lose, he may be early or a Maverick but given time he’s a proven winner.

I really hope him buying Twitter is good for himself, Twitter and society as a whole.

Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775187
10/29/22 10:53 AM
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Mark Fukkerburg lost $100 billion of his personal wealth here lately. That's more than 2 twitters. Money does not matter to the super rich like it does to real people.


What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: 3toe] #3775188
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Originally Posted by 3toe
I’ve honestly never understood why big corporations worry about controversy. And when they do, they seem to lean to the 10% and in doing so piss off the 90% that matters, which creates massive controversy.


I’ve wondered the same before until I found that a couple companies own most shares in the larger companies round the world
so I reckon they’re pulling the strings


They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: Irishguy] #3775190
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BlackRock and vanguard


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Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: cartervj] #3775191
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Originally Posted by cartervj
BlackRock and vanguard


Add in Fidelity and Schwab and crazy to think those 4 control nearly $30Trillion

Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: AU7MM08] #3775221
10/29/22 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
Originally Posted by cartervj
BlackRock and vanguard


Add in Fidelity and Schwab and crazy to think those 4 control nearly $30Trillion


That right there is the real problem with all the fuss about ESG scores. It means play by their rules or they will take away the entire ball-field.


Never Trust Government

"You can be broke but you cant be poor." Ruthie-May Webster
Re: Elon Has a Tough Row to Hoe... [Re: ronfromramer] #3775225
10/29/22 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
Censorship was not the problem, censoring only the opposing view and opinions was the problem. You could tweet just about anything along as it followed their narrative. A fairly administered Twitter would be beneficial to freedom and democracy worldwide





Bingo . My thougts exactly

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