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Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Goatkiller] #3701022
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Everyone needs to decide if they are in or if they are out. It is unacceptable for anyone who claims they are Christian to vote Democrat.

Bottom line.

This Kumbaya crap is going to ensure that Christianity is effectively gone bye bye in a couple more generations.

If you want to be a warrior for God hold others accountable. Get tough. Otherwise you will be brushed to the side like dust in a Hurricane.



Ill just eat pulse

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: jwalker77] #3701028
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
The Bible says "God is love". So, if you dont know God, you cant love anybody or anything. You might have fond feelings but its not love because you are incapable of loving without God. This feeling the queers have is not love


Spouses cheating on each other and stuff like that bother me. Makes me think a hell of alot less of someone especially someone with kids. Its very selfish. Between that and queers nowadays its very sickening.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Nightwatchman] #3701036
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Had my sneaker for the day . .

Thanks guys

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Nightwatchman] #3701053
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David received grace because he had a repentant heart. Had he not repented when Nathan called him out, God would have taken his life right there, according to scripture. So, I'm not sure that " less harshly " would be an accurate description. Yes, Homosexuality is described as an abomination in scripture and it is a severe sin, so I hope I'm not sounding like I'm condoning anything at all. The SBC, Catholic church, and other denomination's have plenty to work on.



David had virgins brought to his bedside to "arouse" him in his old age. Not sure how repentant he really was about it

I mean I am not trying to argue with you, I am just pointing out that there is a reason God speaks more harshly of some sins than others....all sin will send you to hell. That is the important part people need to understand


David suffered massive consequences for his disobedience. His line did as well.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Nightwatchman] #3701055
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Well this went south quickly šŸ˜‚

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: hoggin] #3701058
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Originally Posted by hoggin
I disagree with homosexuality as much as anyone but I do get sick of hearing it preached about almost as much as hearing it shoved out for normal.

Iā€™ve always loved watching people pick the parts of the Bible that donā€™t criticize them and ride it for all itā€™s worth

Just to be clear. A fat preacher is no different than as a trans, gay or lesbian preacher. How many of yā€™all call out your over weight spiritual leader. Just asking


I was asked to leave a church years ago after my ā€œpreacherā€ saw me drinking a beer on a hot summer afternoon. What really pissed him off was when started preaching to me about the sin of drinking I reminded him having a beer wasnā€™t a sin but being fat was and even though we were both sinners, he was obviously the bigger sinner of the two.

Glass houses and splinters in the eye, thatā€™s all Iā€™m sayin


I drink, dip snuff, and cuss too much. Not in that order. The church my Son attends teaches that all of those things are sins and that he needs to get out or our home ASAP or he will become tainted by me and his mamma for our sins. I struggle with it on a daily basis and so does his mamma. He is in a COG congregation that I have only attended 2 times and DO NOT agree with the way they interpret the scripture. I am a sinner, daily. But, his preacher teaches that is you live like he says, you can live a sinless life. I call BS on that. We have had some heated discussions about it too.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Drake322] #3701059
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Originally Posted by Drake322
Originally Posted by hoggin
I disagree with homosexuality as much as anyone but I do get sick of hearing it preached about almost as much as hearing it shoved out for normal.

Iā€™ve always loved watching people pick the parts of the Bible that donā€™t criticize them and ride it for all itā€™s worth

Just to be clear. A fat preacher is no different than as a trans, gay or lesbian preacher. How many of yā€™all call out your over weight spiritual leader. Just asking


I was asked to leave a church years ago after my ā€œpreacherā€ saw me drinking a beer on a hot summer afternoon. What really pissed him off was when started preaching to me about the sin of drinking I reminded him having a beer wasnā€™t a sin but being fat was and even though we were both sinners, he was obviously the bigger sinner of the two.

Glass houses and splinters in the eye, thatā€™s all Iā€™m sayin


I drink, dip snuff, and cuss too much. Not in that order. The church my Son attends teaches that all of those things are sins and that he needs to get out or our home ASAP or he will become tainted by me and his mamma for our sins. I struggle with it on a daily basis and so does his mamma. He is in a COG congregation that I have only attended 2 times and DO NOT agree with the way they interpret the scripture. I am a sinner, daily. But, his preacher teaches that is you live like he says, you can live a sinless life. I call BS on that. We have had some heated discussions about it too.

If you got a preacher telling you that you can lead a sinless life if you just do XYZ, you need to run.....far and fast. There's only been 1 person in the history of the world that led a sinless life, and he was executed on a cross a couple thousand years ago...

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Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Nightwatchman] #3701060
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Bottom line, you got a gay preacher or a congregation of gays that think the bible supports their lifestyle, you're in the wrong church.

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Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If youā€™re a common sense person, you probably donā€™t feel you have a home in this world right now. If youā€™re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Pwyse] #3701061
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Well this went south quickly šŸ˜‚


It's a good thread so far lol

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Drake322] #3701062
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Originally Posted by Drake322
Originally Posted by hoggin
I disagree with homosexuality as much as anyone but I do get sick of hearing it preached about almost as much as hearing it shoved out for normal.

Iā€™ve always loved watching people pick the parts of the Bible that donā€™t criticize them and ride it for all itā€™s worth

Just to be clear. A fat preacher is no different than as a trans, gay or lesbian preacher. How many of yā€™all call out your over weight spiritual leader. Just asking


I was asked to leave a church years ago after my ā€œpreacherā€ saw me drinking a beer on a hot summer afternoon. What really pissed him off was when started preaching to me about the sin of drinking I reminded him having a beer wasnā€™t a sin but being fat was and even though we were both sinners, he was obviously the bigger sinner of the two.

Glass houses and splinters in the eye, thatā€™s all Iā€™m sayin


I drink, dip snuff, and cuss too much. Not in that order. The church my Son attends teaches that all of those things are sins and that he needs to get out or our home ASAP or he will become tainted by me and his mamma for our sins. I struggle with it on a daily basis and so does his mamma. He is in a COG congregation that I have only attended 2 times and DO NOT agree with the way they interpret the scripture. I am a sinner, daily. But, his preacher teaches that is you live like he says, you can live a sinless life. I call BS on that. We have had some heated discussions about it too.


Sinless perfection is a heretical doctrine and the Bible does not support it.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: BPI] #3701065
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Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by Drake322
Originally Posted by hoggin
I disagree with homosexuality as much as anyone but I do get sick of hearing it preached about almost as much as hearing it shoved out for normal.

Iā€™ve always loved watching people pick the parts of the Bible that donā€™t criticize them and ride it for all itā€™s worth

Just to be clear. A fat preacher is no different than as a trans, gay or lesbian preacher. How many of yā€™all call out your over weight spiritual leader. Just asking


I was asked to leave a church years ago after my ā€œpreacherā€ saw me drinking a beer on a hot summer afternoon. What really pissed him off was when started preaching to me about the sin of drinking I reminded him having a beer wasnā€™t a sin but being fat was and even though we were both sinners, he was obviously the bigger sinner of the two.

Glass houses and splinters in the eye, thatā€™s all Iā€™m sayin


I drink, dip snuff, and cuss too much. Not in that order. The church my Son attends teaches that all of those things are sins and that he needs to get out or our home ASAP or he will become tainted by me and his mamma for our sins. I struggle with it on a daily basis and so does his mamma. He is in a COG congregation that I have only attended 2 times and DO NOT agree with the way they interpret the scripture. I am a sinner, daily. But, his preacher teaches that is you live like he says, you can live a sinless life. I call BS on that. We have had some heated discussions about it too.


Sinless perfection is a heretical doctrine and the Bible does not support it.



Amen and well said.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Nightwatchman] #3701067
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Methodist are very accepting of the alphabet crows. Always have been as long as it leads to a dollar but thatā€™s pretty much all religions now days. All are accepting of the clowns that have come out of the closet over the years. Over 40yrs Iā€™ve seen some form of the alphabet club grace the halls of several well to do churches. Most grew up in the communities and are well known for who and what they are. Again anything for a member on the rolls and a dollar. Never seen one asked to leave.

I can also assure anyone that claims to be living without sin is sinning.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

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Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Pwyse] #3701071
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by Drake322
Originally Posted by hoggin
I disagree with homosexuality as much as anyone but I do get sick of hearing it preached about almost as much as hearing it shoved out for normal.

Iā€™ve always loved watching people pick the parts of the Bible that donā€™t criticize them and ride it for all itā€™s worth

Just to be clear. A fat preacher is no different than as a trans, gay or lesbian preacher. How many of yā€™all call out your over weight spiritual leader. Just asking


I was asked to leave a church years ago after my ā€œpreacherā€ saw me drinking a beer on a hot summer afternoon. What really pissed him off was when started preaching to me about the sin of drinking I reminded him having a beer wasnā€™t a sin but being fat was and even though we were both sinners, he was obviously the bigger sinner of the two.

Glass houses and splinters in the eye, thatā€™s all Iā€™m sayin


I drink, dip snuff, and cuss too much. Not in that order. The church my Son attends teaches that all of those things are sins and that he needs to get out or our home ASAP or he will become tainted by me and his mamma for our sins. I struggle with it on a daily basis and so does his mamma. He is in a COG congregation that I have only attended 2 times and DO NOT agree with the way they interpret the scripture. I am a sinner, daily. But, his preacher teaches that is you live like he says, you can live a sinless life. I call BS on that. We have had some heated discussions about it too.


Sinless perfection is a heretical doctrine and the Bible does not support it.



Amen and well said.


If anyone lives a sinless life then they have no need for Jesus. This was the same problem with living by the law and that is the reason we all need the righteousness of Jesus Christ. Man cannot live a sinless life and he cannot follow the law. Any preacher that tells you that you can live a sinless life has no understanding of why God sent his Son Jesus to be the sacrifice for our sins.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: RCHRR] #3701074
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Originally Posted by RCHRR
Methodist are very accepting of the alphabet crows. Always have been as long as it leads to a dollar but thatā€™s pretty much all religions now days. All are accepting of the clowns that have come out of the closet over the years. Over 40yrs Iā€™ve seen some form of the alphabet club grace the halls of several well to do churches. Most grew up in the communities and are well known for who and what they are. Again anything for a member on the rolls and a dollar. Never seen one asked to leave.

I can also assure anyone that claims to be living without sin is sinning.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


Iā€™ve only been in church 15 years but Iā€™ve never seen addicts, adulterers, abusers, etc asked to leave either. Iā€™ve seen congregations treat people poorly which may run them off but not via church discipline. The church I belong to now practices discipline which I agree with. Sinners shouldnā€™t be run off nor should their sin be accepted; relationship building and scripture based guidance should be pursued. At some point they will accept what the Holy Spirit convicts them of and repent or they will continue to reject it and likely leave. But they wonā€™t join membership or leadership until after that point.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: BPI] #3701078
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Originally Posted by BPI
Originally Posted by Pwyse
Well this went south quickly šŸ˜‚


It's a good thread so far lol



I actually thought it was going well.

scripture tells us not to get mired down in specifics. As long as we agree that sin without repentance will send you to hell, I think we can call ourselves in agreement.

PWyse, you are right. I find very often that when standing up for the Faith it is me doing the talking and not the Holy Spirit. The Spirit knows what to say, and I am often bad to come off as hostile even though I am well intentioned. The Bible speaks to that too.
Praying that the Lord arms you both with discernment. I hope you don't have to deal with people you care about falling away over the LGBTQ confirming "Gospel" deception.

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Originally Posted by DoeNut
Originally Posted by RCHRR
Methodist are very accepting of the alphabet crows. Always have been as long as it leads to a dollar but thatā€™s pretty much all religions now days. All are accepting of the clowns that have come out of the closet over the years. Over 40yrs Iā€™ve seen some form of the alphabet club grace the halls of several well to do churches. Most grew up in the communities and are well known for who and what they are. Again anything for a member on the rolls and a dollar. Never seen one asked to leave.

I can also assure anyone that claims to be living without sin is sinning.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,


Iā€™ve only been in church 15 years but Iā€™ve never seen addicts, adulterers, abusers, etc asked to leave either. Iā€™ve seen congregations treat people poorly which may run them off but not via church discipline. The church I belong to now practices discipline which I agree with. Sinners shouldnā€™t be run off nor should their sin be accepted; relationship building and scripture based guidance should be pursued. At some point they will accept what the Holy Spirit convicts them of and repent or they will continue to reject it and likely leave. But they wonā€™t join membership or leadership until after that point.


Sounds to me like your church is on the right path

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Goatkiller] #3701086
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Everyone needs to decide if they are in or if they are out. It is unacceptable for anyone who claims they are Christian to vote Democrat.


What about Catholics? Or predominantly Black churches? Both have high numbers of Democrats.

Re: Just a Reminder- LGBTQ and the Gospel [Re: Pwyse] #3701087
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Originally Posted by Pwyse
Originally Posted by hoggin
I disagree with homosexuality as much as anyone but I do get sick of hearing it preached about almost as much as hearing it shoved out for normal.

Iā€™ve always loved watching people pick the parts of the Bible that donā€™t criticize them and ride it for all itā€™s worth

Just to be clear. A fat preacher is no different than as a trans, gay or lesbian preacher. How many of yā€™all call out your over weight spiritual leader. Just asking


I was asked to leave a church years ago after my ā€œpreacherā€ saw me drinking a beer on a hot summer afternoon. What really pissed him off was when started preaching to me about the sin of drinking I reminded him having a beer wasnā€™t a sin but being fat was and even though we were both sinners, he was obviously the bigger sinner of the two.

Glass houses and splinters in the eye, thatā€™s all Iā€™m sayin




Originally Posted by HappyHunter
The part that most people choose to forget is that all sins are equal.


When Christians realize these truths and apply it to how they see unbelievers, it makes it very easy to be compassionate and loving towards everyone. The only difference between you and a murderer, homosexual, child molester or anyone else is the blood of Christ. God doesnā€™t see what sin was committed. He looks at us and either sees a sinner or His Son. Thatā€™s it.

It is also biblical to help people see the sin they are in. In todays world with todayā€™s people, that is usually not done by telling them what they are doing is wrong. Loving people and building a relationship with them usually goes a lot further with helping them. Also letting the Holy Spirit work is the most important. A lot of years I tried to do these things with out the help of the Holy Spirit and itā€™s like beating your head against a wall.


Good post

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Originally Posted by DryFire
Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Everyone needs to decide if they are in or if they are out. It is unacceptable for anyone who claims they are Christian to vote Democrat.


What about Catholics? Or predominantly Black churches? Both have high numbers of Democrats.


Read the letters Paul wrote to pretty much most of the churches in the New Testament. He was dealing with the same topics. Sexual immorality, idolatry, false doctrines, wolves coming after the sheep. There's nothing new under the sun and nothing the bible doesn't warn us about. Follow the manual. Most all of these churches were in much more hostile environments that we are in now.

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Just checking in and got to get back on the tractor. Not trying to start an aurgument but all sins are not equal but God hates sin. All punishments will not be equal neither will all rewards. While i go back to food plotting if you think i am wrong you will have time to study it lol

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