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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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03/16/22 05:12 AM
03/16/22 05:12 AM
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Posts: 6,885 Tuscaloosa
Booger
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Tuscaloosa
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When did Fauci go to work for the DNR? Are they going to impose a 6 foot rule for deer? Will we have to shoot all deer standing within a certain distance of each other? 🙄
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: JustHunt]
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03/16/22 06:04 AM
03/16/22 06:04 AM
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!shiloh!
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Talked with my lease manager about it today. There will be no baiting or supplemental feeding on their property. I’m perfectly fine with it. We never baited but we did feed in off season. Just have to plant more summer fields now. Some of you act like you can’t hunt without corn. I’ve killed em for many years before all this baiting crap started. People don’t wanna learn to hunt. They just wanna sit over a pile of corn and shoot deer. That ain’t hunting. They will just go sit on a green field then. Not quite the same as hunting over corn IMO. No difference. None..
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: !shiloh!]
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03/16/22 08:36 AM
03/16/22 08:36 AM
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Posts: 8,429 Chelsea
Lockjaw
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Talked with my lease manager about it today. There will be no baiting or supplemental feeding on their property. I’m perfectly fine with it. We never baited but we did feed in off season. Just have to plant more summer fields now. Some of you act like you can’t hunt without corn. I’ve killed em for many years before all this baiting crap started. People don’t wanna learn to hunt. They just wanna sit over a pile of corn and shoot deer. That ain’t hunting. They will just go sit on a green field then. Not quite the same as hunting over corn IMO. No difference. None.. I agree. Deer have to have greens.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
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03/16/22 10:18 AM
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Posts: 21,762 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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I will just never be convinced that killing off a 1/4 acre or more of dirt, tilling up, fertilizing, planting and liming for months of grazing nutrition for multiple species is ever the same as taking 5 minutes to dump a bag of corn out. Never will come close in my mind What about if we increase the size of the corn pile??
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3633308
03/16/22 11:26 AM
03/16/22 11:26 AM
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Posts: 5,103 McCalla, Alabama
MarkBAMA
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Posts: 5,103
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Just curious, with as many of us who hunt Westervelt property has anyone else received one of these letters? One of the guys in my club got one yesterday. Ours was received yesterday
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Enough Said....
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: CNC]
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03/16/22 11:44 AM
03/16/22 11:44 AM
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Posts: 7,081 Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
They Call Me Gator 🐊
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
Joined: Mar 2020
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I will just never be convinced that killing off a 1/4 acre or more of dirt, tilling up, fertilizing, planting and liming for months of grazing nutrition for multiple species is ever the same as taking 5 minutes to dump a bag of corn out. Never will come close in my mind What about if we increase the size of the corn pile?? Hahaha, you got me there
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: !shiloh!]
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03/16/22 11:47 AM
03/16/22 11:47 AM
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abolt300
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Yes Planting a green feild takes more time and effort than dumping a bag of corn out but it doesn't take any more skill to hunt one or the other. it doesnt take any significant amount of skill to kill deer period. Let's see, walk the roads, woods and fields looking for sign, check wind, figure out where deer is most likely to come from, have enough patience to wait until conditions are right, ease in, sit until he walks out or by, and pull the trigger or release. It is honestly that simple. I hunt big woods, pine thickets, creek bottoms, roads, and fields. I hunt from the ground, from climbers, from Loc ons, ladder stands, tripods, and shooting houses. Not a single one of those locations or methods requires any more "skill" than the other in order to kill a deer. I just laugh when someone says "it takes more skill to kill a deer in the woods than it does from a field". It absolutely does not. All it takes to kill deer is patience, time on the stand, a little effort and hunting smart. With a field, you put in the effort liming, planting and fertilizing. In the woods, the effort consists of finding the sign and hanging a stand. The only real skill involved in killing a deer is marksmanship which judging from what I see from people shooting off benches with sandbag rests, anytime I go to the range, is a skill that very few people have. If I had a dollar for every person I've seen that hits the range to check their scope (generally less than a week before the season starts) and puts 5 shots all over an 8" pie plate at 100 yds and says "yep, this baby is still on, lets go hunting", I'd be pretty rich fellow.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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03/16/22 03:44 PM
03/16/22 03:44 PM
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abolt300
Booner
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Drone, timber guys, biologists. Heck, hire a helicopter for an afternoon and you can check multiple counties of owned properties if you are just going from one parcel to the next. Wouldnt cost much to do it that way. Put a cell cam up on your entrance roads and you'll be surprised at how often you'll see timber trucks coming in to check roads, culverts, cogon grass spots, tree growth, looking for beetles, etc. Most timber companies do not play around with lease violations (especially with the lease market like it currently is) and if they took the time to send a formal letter, right or wrong, they are serious about it. I doubt they will send your lease manager out to look your place over on foot but I'm betting that they will just pull the lease, no questions asked, if any of "their people" see any evidence of feeding. Areas that are continually baited are blatantly evident, even a month or more after the bait is gone, and to even a casual observer.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Lockjaw]
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03/16/22 04:28 PM
03/16/22 04:28 PM
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Posts: 13,748 Hoover
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Booner
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Booner
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Talked with my lease manager about it today. There will be no baiting or supplemental feeding on their property. I’m perfectly fine with it. We never baited but we did feed in off season. Just have to plant more summer fields now. Some of you act like you can’t hunt without corn. I’ve killed em for many years before all this baiting crap started. People don’t wanna learn to hunt. They just wanna sit over a pile of corn and shoot deer. That ain’t hunting. They will just go sit on a green field then. Unless you are on the ground with a recurve or spear...STFU. None of it's "hunting". I hope they ban all doe harvests on these leases. That would really protect the herd.
Last edited by burbank; 03/16/22 04:48 PM.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3633488
03/16/22 05:21 PM
03/16/22 05:21 PM
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Posts: 6,871 shelby county
buzzard
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Posts: 6,871
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Better start doing away with the licking branches too.
"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm" Josey Wales
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: abolt300]
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03/16/22 05:23 PM
03/16/22 05:23 PM
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Posts: 52,216 Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
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Drone, timber guys, biologists. Heck, hire a helicopter for an afternoon and you can check multiple counties of owned properties if you are just going from one parcel to the next. Wouldnt cost much to do it that way. Put a cell cam up on your entrance roads and you'll be surprised at how often you'll see timber trucks coming in to check roads, culverts, cogon grass spots, tree growth, looking for beetles, etc. Most timber companies do not play around with lease violations (especially with the lease market like it currently is) and if they took the time to send a formal letter, right or wrong, they are serious about it. I doubt they will send your lease manager out to look your place over on foot but I'm betting that they will just pull the lease, no questions asked, if any of "their people" see any evidence of feeding. Areas that are continually baited are blatantly evident, even a month or more after the bait is gone, and to even a casual observer. Also that NOSEY neighbor whose been eying your lease for 10 years 🤣 Sumbitch gonna be flying drones all year long 😅😅😅 But seriously i know some low down bastages who would actually do that smh
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3633646
03/16/22 09:33 PM
03/16/22 09:33 PM
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Posts: 3,305 Here
Okatuppa
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10 point
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Posts: 3,305
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2 weeks to stop the spread
I ain't fightin nobody that swings around in trees with a running chainsaw like Tarzan. - FurFlyin
Oh I just thought u were a dumba$$ 🤣 my apologies… - jb20
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: James]
#3633783
03/17/22 07:31 AM
03/17/22 07:31 AM
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Posts: 1,928 Opelika
olemossy
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Posts: 1,928
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Drone, timber guys, biologists. Heck, hire a helicopter for an afternoon and you can check multiple counties of owned properties if you are just going from one parcel to the next. Wouldnt cost much to do it that way. Put a cell cam up on your entrance roads and you'll be surprised at how often you'll see timber trucks coming in to check roads, culverts, cogon grass spots, tree growth, looking for beetles, etc. Most timber companies do not play around with lease violations (especially with the lease market like it currently is) and if they took the time to send a formal letter, right or wrong, they are serious about it. I doubt they will send your lease manager out to look your place over on foot but I'm betting that they will just pull the lease, no questions asked, if any of "their people" see any evidence of feeding. Areas that are continually baited are blatantly evident, even a month or more after the bait is gone, and to even a casual observer. Also that NOSEY neighbor whose been eying your lease for 10 years 🤣 Sumbitch gonna be flying drones all year long 😅😅😅 But seriously i know some low down bastages who would actually do that smh This is absolutely fact. Those clowns would be first in line, probably even offer to help you move your stands and stuff off.
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