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Westervelt Lease News
#3631741
03/14/22 01:32 PM
03/14/22 01:32 PM
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 11,160 Central Alabama
Cuz-Pat
OP
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Booner
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Posts: 11,160
Central Alabama
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Got a friend who leases a track from them that showed me a letter that he got from them at the end of last week. Starting immediately they are banning all baiting, supplemental feeding, mineral sites, etc. on all of their properties due to CWD being found within the state. A private, land owning company, stepping up and doing what the state hasn't done, so far. Interesting. Wonder how soon the other big land owning corporations in the state will do the same? Here is a PIC of the letter that someone posted on FB.
Cuz-Pat
Patton's European Mounts Professional Quality Skull & Antler Taxidermy Since 1998
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3631744
03/14/22 01:34 PM
03/14/22 01:34 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,116
blade
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3631788
03/14/22 02:41 PM
03/14/22 02:41 PM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,387 Centreville
weatherby
10 point
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10 point
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Posts: 3,387
Centreville
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When it does...... less deer equal less demand for leases equal less money for said lease. They are just trying to protect their income. but.....I thought they were a timber company.
If Caitlyn Jenner can keep his wiener and be considered a woman, I can keep my guns and be considered disarmed!
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: weatherby]
#3631797
03/14/22 02:51 PM
03/14/22 02:51 PM
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,575 Tuscaloosa
hawndog
8 point
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Joined: Oct 2012
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Tuscaloosa
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When it does...... less deer equal less demand for leases equal less money for said lease. They are just trying to protect their income. but.....I thought they were a timber company. That is what they say if you have a complaint about timing of timber harvest
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3631799
03/14/22 02:53 PM
03/14/22 02:53 PM
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Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 10,649 Central, Al
Bustinbeards
Booner
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Booner
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Central, Al
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How do you remove a long standing mineral site?
Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: weatherby]
#3631807
03/14/22 03:03 PM
03/14/22 03:03 PM
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Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 951 Central Alabama
Super Dave
6 point
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Central Alabama
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When it does...... less deer equal less demand for leases equal less money for said lease. They are just trying to protect their income. but.....I thought they were a timber company. 600000 acres X $10 per acre......... (conservative) They can add 3000 acres per year to their land total with the money from the leases, and they still can cut the trees.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Super Dave]
#3631819
03/14/22 03:13 PM
03/14/22 03:13 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,572
abolt300
Booner
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When it does...... less deer equal less demand for leases equal less money for said lease. They are just trying to protect their income. but.....I thought they were a timber company. 600000 acres X $10 per acre......... (conservative) They can add 3000 acres per year to their land total with the money from the leases, and they still can cut the trees. $10/acre??????? You'd better check again. Avg is prob going to be a lot closer to $15/acre.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3631822
03/14/22 03:18 PM
03/14/22 03:18 PM
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Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 51,977 Round ‘bout there
Clem
Mildly Quirky
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Mildly Quirky
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Round ‘bout there
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The DCNR isn't going to ban baiting (or minerals) statewide.
Too much money involved for them through the "privilege license." They're not going to give up that gravy now that it's available. They already sold their biological-disease risk principles about baiting for the money, anyway.
The other thing is the baiting "privilege license" was done through the Legislature. The department is not going to buck the legislators unless there's a clear reason to, such as CWD. And then they can point to the CWD management plan for any bans or restrictions in specific areas.
Westervelt is doing what can be done by anyone - making their own decision.
Prohibiting baiting, feeding or minerals won't stop CWD, though.
Last edited by Clem; 03/14/22 03:20 PM.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3631828
03/14/22 03:25 PM
03/14/22 03:25 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,572
abolt300
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Yeah I don't think mine is $10. I need to find a private land owner. LOL, you dont know much about leasing land and lease prices do you?????? Most good private stuff starts at timber company rates and goes up from there.
Last edited by abolt300; 03/14/22 03:28 PM.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3631837
03/14/22 03:31 PM
03/14/22 03:31 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,863 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,863
Awbarn, AL
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I guess that worked out pretty good if you're their neighbor.......
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: abolt300]
#3631852
03/14/22 03:46 PM
03/14/22 03:46 PM
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Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,104 Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
They Call Me Gator 🐊
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,104
Free State of Winston
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Yeah I don't think mine is $10. I need to find a private land owner. LOL, you dont know much about leasing land and lease prices do you?????? Most good private stuff starts at timber company rates and goes up from there. Depends. I’ve got really good land for Winston county and I’m at or below timber company prices. Put a lot of effort into finding the right landowner. My landowner and I share information and talk twice a month at least. I put more effort into maintaining that relationship than I ever did finding clubs or timber land but it’s worth it
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
#3631856
03/14/22 03:54 PM
03/14/22 03:54 PM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,572
abolt300
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Yeah I don't think mine is $10. I need to find a private land owner. LOL, you dont know much about leasing land and lease prices do you?????? Most good private stuff starts at timber company rates and goes up from there. Depends. I’ve got really good land for Winston county and I’m at or below timber company prices. Put a lot of effort into finding the right landowner. My landowner and I share information and talk twice a month at least. I put more effort into maintaining that relationship than I ever did finding clubs or timber land but it’s worth it That was kind of my point. Most good private land leases are relationship driven. If he is looking for private land that is just listed out on the open market, if it is even remotely decent, it's going to be high as giraffe ---sy. Take a look at the rates on the stuff that Tutt Land leases for private individuals, look at what the AU and Power Leases go for every year, ever seen a really good deal on any leases listed on AFOA??? As much trouble as he has had with his lease, you think that if he knew a private landowner that would lease to him, he wouldnt already be doing it?????
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: abolt300]
#3631866
03/14/22 04:15 PM
03/14/22 04:15 PM
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Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 8,534 Chelsea
Lockjaw
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Yeah I don't think mine is $10. I need to find a private land owner. LOL, you dont know much about leasing land and lease prices do you?????? Most good private stuff starts at timber company rates and goes up from there. What makes you think that? If I am willing to buy a tractor, trailer, and a garage full of implements, plus spend $3K a year over my dues, why would leasing land that costs more than what my lease is at now bother me? What kind of club could I get into with a tractor, a good work ethic, and $3K + a year in dues? I realize I am not 5 Star Plantation $, but I would be an asset to any club anywhere in my area. This rule change won't phase me a bit. Rather than spending money on feed, I will invest it in better soil tests, and crops. I am not going to grow monster bucks feeding corn all year anyway. More challenging will be the mineral side, but it doesn't sound like it said no salt.
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3631904
03/14/22 05:17 PM
03/14/22 05:17 PM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14,633 Clanton
Turkey_neck
Booner
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Clanton
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Yeah I don't think mine is $10. I need to find a private land owner. LOL, you dont know much about leasing land and lease prices do you?????? Most good private stuff starts at timber company rates and goes up from there. What makes you think that? If I am willing to buy a tractor, trailer, and a garage full of implements, plus spend $3K a year over my dues, why would leasing land that costs more than what my lease is at now bother me? What kind of club could I get into with a tractor, a good work ethic, and $3K + a year in dues? I realize I am not 5 Star Plantation $, but I would be an asset to any club anywhere in my area. This rule change won't phase me a bit. Rather than spending money on feed, I will invest it in better soil tests, and crops. I am not going to grow monster bucks feeding corn all year anyway. More challenging will be the mineral side, but it doesn't sound like it said no salt. What exactly do you think a mineral site is?🤔
Last edited by Turkey_neck; 03/14/22 05:18 PM.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Re: Westervelt Lease News
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
#3631915
03/14/22 05:31 PM
03/14/22 05:31 PM
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Posts: 715 Louisiana to Central AL
Antelope08
4 point
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4 point
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Posts: 715
Louisiana to Central AL
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There’ll be some leases available this and next year. They’ll be some just give them up but think how many are going to try to get away with baiting and will get caught. Start saving money!!! Going to be prime land coming in the next couple of years!! I hope this does free up some in my area, I have been looking since I moved to AL, I figure some people will just give them up.....on the other hand, when they ban it on their properties and a lessee continues to do it and gets caught, I guess they will terminate the lease immediately.....
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