Got a friend who leases a track from them that showed me a letter that he got from them at the end of last week. Starting immediately they are banning all baiting, supplemental feeding, mineral sites, etc. on all of their properties due to CWD being found within the state.

A private, land owning company, stepping up and doing what the state hasn't done, so far.

Interesting.

Wonder how soon the other big land owning corporations in the state will do the same?

Here is a PIC of the letter that someone posted on FB.

Wow!

No way to stop the spread just like Rona virus. It's going to happen. When it does...... less deer equal less demand for leases equal less money for said lease. They are just trying to protect their income.

David

but.....I thought they were a timber company.

That is what they say if you have a complaint about timing of timber harvest

How do you remove a long standing mineral site?

There’ll be some leases available this and next year. They’ll be some just give them up but think how many are going to try to get away with baiting and will get caught. Start saving money!!! Going to be prime land coming in the next couple of years!!

600000 acres X $10 per acre......... (conservative) They can add 3000 acres per year to their land total with the money from the leases, and they still can cut the trees.

I wonder how they plan to enforce that? I have existing mineral sites. Guess the state will probably follow suit?

$10/acre??????? You'd better check again. Avg is prob going to be a lot closer to $15/acre.

Yeah I don't think mine is $10. I need to find a private land owner.

The DCNR isn't going to ban baiting (or minerals) statewide.

Too much money involved for them through the "privilege license." They're not going to give up that gravy now that it's available. They already sold their biological-disease risk principles about baiting for the money, anyway.

The other thing is the baiting "privilege license" was done through the Legislature. The department is not going to buck the legislators unless there's a clear reason to, such as CWD. And then they can point to the CWD management plan for any bans or restrictions in specific areas.

Westervelt is doing what can be done by anyone - making their own decision.


Prohibiting baiting, feeding or minerals won't stop CWD, though.

LOL, you dont know much about leasing land and lease prices do you?????? Most good private stuff starts at timber company rates and goes up from there.

I guess that worked out pretty good if you're their neighbor.......

The state is not giving up the 15 dollar baiting permit.

Depends. I’ve got really good land for Winston county and I’m at or below timber company prices. Put a lot of effort into finding the right landowner. My landowner and I share information and talk twice a month at least. I put more effort into maintaining that relationship than I ever did finding clubs or timber land but it’s worth it

That was kind of my point. Most good private land leases are relationship driven. If he is looking for private land that is just listed out on the open market, if it is even remotely decent, it's going to be high as giraffe ---sy. Take a look at the rates on the stuff that Tutt Land leases for private individuals, look at what the AU and Power Leases go for every year, ever seen a really good deal on any leases listed on AFOA??? As much trouble as he has had with his lease, you think that if he knew a private landowner that would lease to him, he wouldnt already be doing it?????

What makes you think that? If I am willing to buy a tractor, trailer, and a garage full of implements, plus spend $3K a year over my dues, why would leasing land that costs more than what my lease is at now bother me? What kind of club could I get into with a tractor, a good work ethic, and $3K + a year in dues? I realize I am not 5 Star Plantation $, but I would be an asset to any club anywhere in my area.

This rule change won't phase me a bit. Rather than spending money on feed, I will invest it in better soil tests, and crops. I am not going to grow monster bucks feeding corn all year anyway. More challenging will be the mineral side, but it doesn't sound like it said no salt.

What exactly do you think a mineral site is?🤔

I hope this does free up some in my area, I have been looking since I moved to AL, I figure some people will just give them up.....on the other hand, when they ban it on their properties and a lessee continues to do it and gets caught, I guess they will terminate the lease immediately.....