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Re: Constitutional Carry Bills [Re: JR1234_] #3602375
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You already have to get a permit to protest in some cases, and you can't carry while in a demonstration in Alabama and maybe elsewhere as far as I know. A carry permit is similar to a poll tax.

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Call your reps. Write your reps. Email your reps. Pour the heat on. This our right.

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https://www.sandmountainreporter.com/free_share/article_3fa50206-850e-11ec-9427-834ac75ba681.html

In a recent interview, Alabama Sheriff’s Association Executive Director Bobby Timmons reportedly said Americans don’t have the right to carry a handgun and that he would “be in favor” of changing the Constitution to limit the Second Amendment.

Said the quiet part out loud.

Re: Constitutional Carry Bills [Re: 300gr] #3603379
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Originally Posted by 300gr
I have no problem with them doing a one time background check but its wrong to have to keep paying yearly for a guaranteed right


THIS

...and any Republican voting vs this should be challenged and primaried

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Re: Constitutional Carry Bills [Re: JR1234_] #3603381
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Originally Posted by JR1234_
You already have to get a permit to protest in some cases, and you can't carry while in a demonstration in Alabama and maybe elsewhere as far as I know. A carry permit is similar to a poll tax.


correct... most concealed carry laws in the South were a central component of late 19th C. jim crow laws..

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I’m all for constitutional carry but the problem I have with not having a physical permit, is what do you do when you travel to another state that would normally honor your permit but will not honor constitutional carry? I liked the idea mentioned above of issuing a permit (for free) that is good until you commit a crime that would restrict you from legally carrying a firearm.


If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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Originally Posted by ford150man
I’m all for constitutional carry but the problem I have with not having a physical permit, is what do you do when you travel to another state that would normally honor your permit but will not honor constitutional carry? I liked the idea mentioned above of issuing a permit (for free) that is good until you commit a crime that would restrict you from legally carrying a firearm.

You get a permit before you go.

Re: Constitutional Carry Bills [Re: JR1234_] #3603399
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The majority of us will still get a permit for when we travel.
Everyone knows this is about the revenue. Im all for them having the funding they need. The issue I have is paying for a right. If they need the funding it should be shared by everyone that benefits from the services they provide. Not just the limited number that need a permit.

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Originally Posted by ford150man
I’m all for constitutional carry but the problem I have with not having a physical permit, is what do you do when you travel to another state that would normally honor your permit but will not honor constitutional carry? I liked the idea mentioned above of issuing a permit (for free) that is good until you commit a crime that would restrict you from legally carrying a firearm.


You get a permit, the bill(s) wouldn't end permits, that system remains.

The bill(s) would end the requirement to have a permit for concealed carry, or to get in a vehicle while open carrying (which somehow is considered concealed in AL)

I would just like to know why we need a stack of paperwork, and several different bills to do anything? Why can't anybody get anything done on 1 page of paper? It seems like the usual political dumbf*ckery to me but what do I know?

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Re: Constitutional Carry Bills [Re: JR1234_] #3603436
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Originally Posted by JR1234_
Originally Posted by ford150man
I’m all for constitutional carry but the problem I have with not having a physical permit, is what do you do when you travel to another state that would normally honor your permit but will not honor constitutional carry? I liked the idea mentioned above of issuing a permit (for free) that is good until you commit a crime that would restrict you from legally carrying a firearm.


You get a permit, the bill(s) wouldn't end permits, that system remains.

The bill(s) would end the requirement to have a permit for concealed carry, or to get in a vehicle while open carrying (which somehow is considered concealed in AL)

I would just like to know why we need a stack of paperwork, and several different bills to do anything? Why can't anybody get anything done on 1 page of paper? It seems like the usual political dumbf*ckery to me but what do I know?

It's a political shell game. The house will pass one and the senate a different bill and neither will make it to Maw Maws desk because they can't reconcile the bills. That way all the lyin politicians will be able to claim they're fighting either for constitutional carry or against it without actually doing a damn thing to change the law and blame someone else. It's the same BS game they've been playing with the lottery bill for years.

If they do pass something, you can bet there will still be restrictions on our rights.

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Cynical, I can't blame you though.

Many other states have passed constitutional carry so we can too, just have to play the long game.

Re: Constitutional Carry Bills [Re: JR1234_] #3603448
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Originally Posted by JR1234_
Cynical, I can't blame you though.

Many other states have passed constitutional carry so we can too, just have to play the long game.

They're playing a long game with your FREEDOM.

You have too much faith in the Montgomery crooks. We're one of only 5 states without a lottery and they've be "trying" to pass a lottery for over 20 years.


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I get what you're saying, but you're interpreting what I'm saying the wrong way.

I agree. I just think your anger is misplaced.

What is your solution then if it isn't to fight politically, but instead to give up and get angry at people like me who are at least trying?

You can do all you can do, and if that isn't enough at least you tried. Instead of not even trying. If you don't even try then you have no right to complain IMO.

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Originally Posted by JR1234_
I get what you're saying, but you're interpreting what I'm saying the wrong way.

I agree. I just think your anger is misplaced.

What is your solution then if it isn't to fight politically, but instead to give up and get angry at people like me who are at least trying?

You can do all you can do, and if that isn't enough at least you tried. Instead of not even trying. If you don't even try then you have no right to complain IMO.

Unless you are a member of our state legislature, no anger directed at you.

I'm skeptical because history tells me not to believe what politicians are telling us.


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Re: Constitutional Carry Bills [Re: AU338MAG] #3603479
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The injuns keep killing the lottery. They do not want it. It might cut into their massive casino profits. They pay the politicians errr traitors.

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