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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: joshm28]
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01/20/22 08:34 AM
01/20/22 08:34 AM
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I thought it was illegal for railroad employees to strike? I don’t know specifics but with Covid they could just as easily stage a sick out
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: MorningAir]
#3589115
01/20/22 09:07 AM
01/20/22 09:07 AM
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Mobile, AL
SouthBamaSlayer
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Mobile, AL
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I don’t know how true this is because I heard it from someone in the transportation industry who doesn’t work for them.
The strike threat on the attendance policy is related to sick days. From what I gather the employees want sick days added to their benefits. I would imagine that some employees lost some pay or vacation due to Covid, and I think this was a complaint before covid across several railroad companies.
I was told that some other railroads are getting buckets of employees complaining about this too.
This is one thing that Trump and Biden dropped the ball on. Companies didn’t add any sick days for covid and quarantine so 1000’s of employees are eating up 5 to 10 days of their earned vacation with covid. The corporations benefit tremendously from this because through 2022 there will be 1000’s of workers with very little vacation time remaining. Your last paragraph could not be more incorrect. I promise there is no company benefiting from employees having to use their time off for Covid. Production is suffering tremendously. As far as adding sick days, every person that has to report to an actual office or location in the entire country is facing the same problem. Once again proving that unions are just blackmail and extortion at this point.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: RCHRR]
#3589117
01/20/22 09:08 AM
01/20/22 09:08 AM
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Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,635
East Alabama
MorningAir
8 point
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East Alabama
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What do you people think is happening in the healthcare industry? We have long term sick which at first they would let you use with Covid related issues. The actual policy states that one must use 40 hours of earned time off (vacation time) for any sickness then long sick kicks in but now it all has to come out of ETO. So now the company (hospital) is eating up peoples vacation time. Which by the way they have also been denying some peoples request for time off. Yeah, like I said, even Trump wet the bed on this one. I know of some nurses who lost all but 4 days of their Earned time off due to covid. So now they gotta work until almost August to build up any vacation. Companies are loving this because they won’t have anyone off work for months now. Trump should’ve added something like 10 covid days with or without pay at the corporations discretion that cannot be deducted from ETO , PTO , or Vacation accruals.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
#3589120
01/20/22 09:12 AM
01/20/22 09:12 AM
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Semmes, AL
HippieKiller
10 point
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Semmes, AL
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I don’t know how true this is because I heard it from someone in the transportation industry who doesn’t work for them.
The strike threat on the attendance policy is related to sick days. From what I gather the employees want sick days added to their benefits. I would imagine that some employees lost some pay or vacation due to Covid, and I think this was a complaint before covid across several railroad companies.
I was told that some other railroads are getting buckets of employees complaining about this too.
This is one thing that Trump and Biden dropped the ball on. Companies didn’t add any sick days for covid and quarantine so 1000’s of employees are eating up 5 to 10 days of their earned vacation with covid. The corporations benefit tremendously from this because through 2022 there will be 1000’s of workers with very little vacation time remaining. Your last paragraph could not be more incorrect. I promise there is no company benefiting from employees having to use their time off for Covid. Production is suffering tremendously. As far as adding sick days, every person that has to report to an actual office or location in the entire country is facing the same problem. Once again proving that unions are just blackmail and extortion at this point. Yep. If a company is paying for that time off, it matters not if the employee has C19 or is in Aruba. The pay & attendance is the same.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: AU7MM08]
#3589124
01/20/22 09:16 AM
01/20/22 09:16 AM
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Posts: 9,197
B'ham
Goatkiller
14 point
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14 point
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B'ham
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Hopefully they can hire some new employees to replace them before things get worse with the supply chain.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: HippieKiller]
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01/20/22 10:56 AM
01/20/22 10:56 AM
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Posts: 18,180
North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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I don’t know how true this is because I heard it from someone in the transportation industry who doesn’t work for them.
The strike threat on the attendance policy is related to sick days. From what I gather the employees want sick days added to their benefits. I would imagine that some employees lost some pay or vacation due to Covid, and I think this was a complaint before covid across several railroad companies.
I was told that some other railroads are getting buckets of employees complaining about this too.
This is one thing that Trump and Biden dropped the ball on. Companies didn’t add any sick days for covid and quarantine so 1000’s of employees are eating up 5 to 10 days of their earned vacation with covid. The corporations benefit tremendously from this because through 2022 there will be 1000’s of workers with very little vacation time remaining. Your last paragraph could not be more incorrect. I promise there is no company benefiting from employees having to use their time off for Covid. Production is suffering tremendously. As far as adding sick days, every person that has to report to an actual office or location in the entire country is facing the same problem. Once again proving that unions are just blackmail and extortion at this point. Yep. If a company is paying for that time off, it matters not if the employee has C19 or is in Aruba. The pay & attendance is the same. Our company added 10 sick days for China Flu last year. It no longer applies for current year.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: MorningAir]
#3589252
01/20/22 11:15 AM
01/20/22 11:15 AM
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Posts: 322
Andalusia, Alabama
rickyh_2
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What do you people think is happening in the healthcare industry? We have long term sick which at first they would let you use with Covid related issues. The actual policy states that one must use 40 hours of earned time off (vacation time) for any sickness then long sick kicks in but now it all has to come out of ETO. So now the company (hospital) is eating up peoples vacation time. Which by the way they have also been denying some peoples request for time off. Yeah, like I said, even Trump wet the bed on this one. I know of some nurses who lost all but 4 days of their Earned time off due to covid. So now they gotta work until almost August to build up any vacation. Companies are loving this because they won’t have anyone off work for months now. Trump should’ve added something like 10 covid days with or without pay at the corporations discretion that cannot be deducted from ETO , PTO , or Vacation accruals. The Hospital my wife works reimbursed their vacation/sick days taken due to Covid. Took about 6 months, but they did give them their time back. It’s a small hospital though!
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: AU7MM08]
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01/20/22 12:06 PM
01/20/22 12:06 PM
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northport
deadeye48
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Just spoke with a friend who is retired RR and he said the RR people cannot legally work more than 10hrs a day but they can legally go on strike simply by just saying they are now on strike and negotiations begin during arbitration
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: deadeye48]
#3589370
01/20/22 12:35 PM
01/20/22 12:35 PM
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Pelham
Ben2
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Pelham
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Just spoke with a friend who is retired RR and he said the RR people cannot legally work more than 10hrs a day but they can legally go on strike simply by just saying they are now on strike and negotiations begin during arbitration Time to hire some new folks and get to work
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: AU7MM08]
#3589391
01/20/22 12:51 PM
01/20/22 12:51 PM
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Posts: 14,116
Chilton County
MarksOutdoors
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Chilton County
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I don't know of any industry that is not being overworked due to labor shortages. Not everyone gets compensated as well as the RR guys, though. They'd better be thankful for what they have.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
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Re: BNSF strike
[Re: joshm28]
#3589410
01/20/22 01:07 PM
01/20/22 01:07 PM
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Old Mossy Horns
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I thought it was illegal for railroad employees to strike? Then what would be the purpose of being in the union? Seems like without the threat of strike, they would have no bite to their bark. As for being paid when off with covid, I guess my company has really stepped up in a big way. We don’t have to use any of our vacation or sick time when off with covid. All we have to do is submit proof of a positive test and they pay us for time off. I’ve had it three times. Got two weeks paid off time the first two times and one week this past time, since the CDC changed their recommendations. Hasn’t affected my banked time one bit.
Last edited by ford150man; 01/20/22 01:07 PM.
If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.-Mark Twain
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