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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #351113
06/15/12 09:12 PM
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Without going through it all again, what is the gun? And does it have double triggers. I cant tell.


Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: n2deer] #351144
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Originally Posted By: n2deer
Without going through it all again, what is the gun? And does it have double triggers. I cant tell.


Its a Yildiz, 20 gauge with single trigger. Yildiz makes a double trigger, but Academy doesn't import it.

The gun's future depends entirely on whether or not the gunsmith thinks he can securely mount the sight. If he can't, then its not a turkey gun. It would be good for shooting pen-raised quail. I do that about once a year with my uncle.


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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #351209
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Nice! I like it!

Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #351293
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With most 20s, the 9s like .570 to .585. If you're going to thread it for Remington, you should try the Rem Super Full with it. It's about .570+. If you want it real tight, an Indian Creek .555 will do the job nicely.

Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #351410
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I put two carlsons 575 in my O/U. It will put the 8s around 200 and i never counted the 9s. They kill to 60 yards.

I did shoot one to pattern amd it was easily over 300. I just really didnt see a point in counting them. I have shot enough birds with them to know.

Im sure i will count one one day. Cause i will check my sights again next year. I think the carlsons were 15-16 bucks apiece.


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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: n2deer] #351548
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Brandon, is that the flush mount .575? I put a Carlson flush mount .575 on one of my son's Benelli Novas, and he gets mid 200s with the 1-7/16 oz load, while my other son put an Undertaker on his and gets high 200s with that same load. Out of my Rem 870, I get 260ish with that load and 320+ with the 1-5/8 oz load, and 375ish with the 1-7/8 oz load. The Benelli/Undertaker gives 300+ with the 1-5/8 oz load. Those all have 26" barrels, which is what I like for the 20 gauge.

Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #351678
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Its the extended turkey tube i have.

I could be wrong but i seen enough patterns, im thinking it should around that 300+. Which should be good, i feel it almost gets to ridiculous trying for better than that.

Im thinking my batrels were 20 inches.

I havent tried the mossberg 500, i have a 570 in it. These are all invector chokes.


Steve does that gun have a barrel selector?


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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #352013
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>>>Im thinking my batrels were 20 inches.<<<

Man, that's short! Have you checked the velocity on those short barrels? Maybe 24" is too long for mine, especially with extended chokes.

>>>Steve does that gun have a barrel selector?<<<

Yes, you have to select the barrel before you take the safety off. If you change your mind, you gotta take it off safe, move it over to re-select the barrel, then take it off safe again.

Anybody ever used Trulock chokes? They are one of the very few that offer Yildiz chokes.

http://www.trulockchokes.com/get-chokes....okes=See+Chokes

I could get a .581 for the left barrel and a .591 for the right. The Yildiz bore is supposed to run .626, so that would be 92.8% for the tight barrel and 94.4% for the open. Those number are in line with what most are getting good tss results.

Haven't heard back from William; installing the FF may not work. I've spent some time looking at it, and I think it would be somewhat usable for me if I just put a tru-glo front bead on it. I never could get a clear view of the front bead with the bi-focals that I used for years, but I can with the progressives that I have now. I can't line up 2 beads; if the front is clear, I see about 3 beads on the rear. But if I have just a highly visible front bead, getting the up-down picture should be easy. You've either got a fine bead that hits the target or you can't see it. Right-left could still be a challenge.


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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #352055
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Steve, I can't recall details, but there are guys getting some good patterns with Tru-locks in the 20 gauge.

Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #352497
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
>>>Im thinking my batrels were 20 inches.<<<

Man, that's short! Have you checked the velocity on those short barrels? Maybe 24" is too long for mine, especially with extended chokes.




I havent, I know im good to 60. Field tested turkey approved.

But your right, I do need to get me another chono.


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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #352498
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To be honest, I wouldnt worry about the choke.

581 should be fine with those loads.

Dont over complicate things.


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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #352662
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Just had a good conversation with William at SumToy. He likes to do off-the-wall projects, so he finds this one interesting. I'm gonna send him the gun and see what he can do with mounting a sight and cutting the barrels and building chokes. He's thinking of a .560 choke in one barrel and a .590 in the other. Said if there wasn't a big difference in them, I wouldn't be able to tell much difference in the patterns, and I suspect he's right. I told him I just wanta be sure the open barrel will still kill to 40, or Murphy's Law is gonna hit home someday.


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Re: Need advice on a turkey gun [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #352680
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I would think he should be able to do a mount. Usually those ribs are thick.

I wohld think you could kill to 40 with a cylinder choke and number nines. smile

Very eager to see the process and how it goes.


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