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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/29/21 11:01 AM
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Lockjaw
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I think we are trying to find the balance of letting people use bait, and its impact on the club for other members. From what I have seen and heard from other guys who put corn out last year, if you put it on the ground, or even use a bag feeder, you are feeding coons and everything else, and you go through it quickly. If you sent up a feeder with a timer, and set it to go off a few seconds twice a day, then it lasts a lot longer.
We didn't want to discourage people from baiting, but what we did want to discourage is a ton of traffic on a green field because someone wants to bait it all the time.
All my corn I put out last year was in the woods, usually if I took any out and put it on a green field, it was a gallon size freezer bag of it. This will be my first year using a feeder with a timer, so I will be interested to see how it does. I want to train the deer so when they hear it go off, they know its not broadcasting a lot of it, so they need to come get it quick.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Bcbama260]
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09/29/21 09:27 PM
09/29/21 09:27 PM
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Snuffy
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Snuffy I think u like our club lol 😁
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/29/21 10:14 PM
09/29/21 10:14 PM
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walt4dun
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I'd work backwards math to find the $ number you are comfortable with as a club adding to the bottom line and see how many Boss Buck 55 gal drum built timed 12v feeders with solar panels + 350lb corn per fill each and how much lb/day you want to feed to last all year (or just deer hunting season, etc). Also Who will fill? Remember more corn lb/day fed equals more fills more $, more labor = More $ per year. (To wit I think I paid 15c /lb for corn in bulk a month a go when I filled up last.)
So thats what the club can provide. From there I would let members do as they pleased with additional corn wherever they pleased with the understanding there are no private spots, its first come first serve, and thats the deal, any rumored crying or bellyaching will be immediately addressed and pends a their removal as an example to others this is meant to be a fun bellyache free environment and weak links will be removed. Now is everyone is happy and you arent dragging yourself into more micromanagement fun police BS as leaseholder/president.. Remember every rule is one more you have to enforce.. Go have fun!
Last edited by walt4dun; 09/29/21 10:15 PM.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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09/30/21 07:52 AM
09/30/21 07:52 AM
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I won't know the $ we take in until the lease is handed over to me. And if I am honest, I would rather bank a little $ so we don't ever struggle to make a lease payment. Then I would upgrade some of the hunting stands and soil test regularly and keep the fields limed and fertilized. Ag lime is cheap, but its not easy to spread, and I don't have any more room in my garage to add a lime drop spreader. Which means pellet lime. Even when I can find it on sale, its still over $3 for 40 pounds. The upside is we did ag lime already, so I could probably do a ton of pellet lime a year and keep everything in the proper PH range.
Last fall, I established 4 perennial plots, in whitetail clover, fusion and Alfa rack. This fall, nearly all 24 will have some sort of perennial crop on them, mainly whitetail clover, fusion and alfra rack, but I did try extreme and edge in a couple spots, and I have one big field where I have Plot spike clover, whitetail clover and durana in sections, so I want to see how they compare and which the deer tend to prefer. Fusion is probably my preferred planting. All 4 of the established plots have heavy use, especially right now while we are waiting on the cereal grains and brassica's to grow. Then fall plantings will be more like come out, fill up the 3pt spreader and run around and broadcast some cereail grains and brassica's and add fertilizer and lime as needed ahead of rain. Shouldn't need to disk anymore.
We are supposed to get a couple more fields next year when they cut timber. They will be half an acre, but I am going to ask for a little bigger. Or else I want to try to get the loggers to cut a north south running road we can plant. That will take a bunch of lime, since all our soil tests came back with PH's in the high 4's to low 5's.
The biologist wants zero human traffic on the green fields, which will take some training. Hopefully we can move towards people letting doe's go on the green fields so we can begin to see bucks on them. As we get these fields going, our carrying capacity should increase and I expect we will see more body mass.
We basically require members to get a bait permit. But I think not allowing corn to be put on a green field creates a safety factor if you don't have one and didn't know someone spread corn out on the green field. But I could see us putting a feeder on a field and making it the "first deer kill honey hole" if you know what I mean. Nothing worse than trying to get a kid into hunting and then go and never see a deer.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: joshm28]
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10/02/21 06:37 AM
10/02/21 06:37 AM
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270wsm
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Like I said earlier all our feeders are on plots. We don’t shoot does on food plots so the deer are really never harassed while at the feeder or the plot. Every year we kill a couple good bucks on or near those same plots. It’s pretty foolproof honestly. But it’s just me and a buddy on a total of 900 acres (2 different leases). Same as above. All of my feeders are located in food plots, broadcast corn daily at 7am and 4pm and we refill feeders every 60 days during season. We do not kill does on plots so the deer aren't pressured near the feeders and every year we kill mature bucks on the plots/feeders. I'm not in a club, but manage/hunt a smaller place and have to be conscious of pressure. Therefore, I do not want the added nonhunting pressure of feeding in the woods.
Last edited by 270wsm; 10/02/21 06:56 AM.
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Re: Hunt Clubs and corn?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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10/03/21 10:11 AM
10/03/21 10:11 AM
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CatHeadBiscuit
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Don’t get your bag corn at Calera’s Walmart in those $9.48 50 lb bags. They are full of mold. Pouring it into a feeder spits out a greenish cloud of spores.
Last edited by CatHeadBiscuit; 10/03/21 10:12 AM.
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