Exactly. Why would you post something that wasn’t you and you have no proof of the broadhead failing to open. The whole thread is a joke. I don’t shoot Rage, but like others, I’ve killed plenty of animals with all sorts of mechanicals.

Sumpn aint right here🧐

He knows it didn't open because he killed the bull like I've stated lol. So, he looked at the head and it did not open. I also mentioned it could have been operator error as well...

*Well, since its an ARCHERY FORUM I posted it here and I know the guy it happened to
*I think seeing the head is proof
*as far as a joke, whatever. As far as you calling me a liar which you're basically doing, bite me lol

Simply looking at the broadhead after pulling it out don’t mean squat. Show me a pic of the entrance hole under the hide.

Just as I thought…..

I’m not calling bs but I’ve had several buddies say the same on marginal shots on whitetail. Don’t know if it was rage error or shooter error. But I destroyed a does front shoulder at 20 yds with a grim reaper chisel tip and she went 50 yds.

I have made some pretty good shots in several deer with muzzys and g5 montecs and have had trouble finding several. Swapped to rage for a couple years and my recovery rate went way up Swapped to Grimm reaper about 3 years ago and they are by far the most devastating head I’ve ever shot. I’m not saying I won’t ever shoot another fixed head but I don’t see it happening anytime soon. I see 0 benefit in them.

I agree. Many mech heads have a large cutting diameter and if your bow and arrow combination doesn't have the power to put one through whatever animal you are hunting then that chit is on you not the head. It's your responcibility to know such things.

As for the "it didn't open crap" I never believe it and with good reason. It's horse pucky. Over the years I have shot Rocket Steelheads, Rocky Mt Snypers, Grim Reapers, Spitfires, Wasp Jackhammers, NAP Shockwaves, Rage, etc, etc. Some of them I killed deer with and some I just tested on various target materials. Never had a single one fail to open, EVER. Hell I even tied some of them shut with dental floss and shot them. They snapped the dental floss and still opened. Yet every time someone loses an animal or has a bad time of it on a hunt they claim the expandable head they used didn't open. A claim that is particularly odd in the cases where the animal wasn't found because how in the hell would you know in such a case?

In the case in question here they claim the head didn't open and yet it only penetrated deep enough to get one lung. Well an unopened mech head would penetrate like a field tip. In other words it would penetrate even deeper if somehow it stayed closed. If it didn't open and only managed to penetrate to one lung then they are lucky it stayed shut or it wouldn't have broke the skin. Tell these guys to check their bow and see if the words "Playskool" or "Mattel" are written anywhere on it. If so, they need to take it back to the store and tell them this time they want a bow from the sporting goods section and not the toy aisle. LOL!

Bottom line: If you frack up on a bow hunt man up and take responcibility for your mess. This sounds like a case of either poor penetration, chitty shooting or a combination of the two.

I think the people that have heads that don’t open are trying to shoot a bow 30000000 fps so they shoot s super light arrow. After they don’t get penetration and they find the arrow that falls out of the entry hole and the blades aren’t fully opened they automatically say head didn’t open. Forward momentum in conjunction with hitting a given target opens the heads and keeps them open. Once forward momentum stops then the blades can move around especially when pulled backwards like when they fall out of a deer. I’m with Todd ive literally shot hundreds of heads and never had one fail. I also make sure to check each head prior to shooting it to make sure whatever mechanism it has that makes it operate isn’t messed up. I shoot a pretty heavy arrow pretty slowly and have blown through some big bodies deer. Ive shot through shoulder. Heck i shot one nearly from end to end one day on accident. I have lost some deer but I have never felt it was the heads fault. I think that’s just a cop out.

Yeah you keep thinking that. I think it’s funny that a couple of you are so naïve that you think nothing mechanical can feel I’ve already looked at broadhead and I know why it failed

This threads actually making me laugh. For the ones doubting the lack of penetration if it failed to open, you’ve never shot a bull elk into a solid rib, it slows down an arrow LOL.

Me being not the shooter would have no reason to make up some bulldoodoo story and post it on here.

If you’re really dumb enough to not think something mechanical can fail, due to human error or manufacturing, that’s really funny. Especially when some of your drink horse medicine LOL

I don’t have pictures of the wounds because I was not on the hunt, but I do know that the head failed, I saw the head, and I know why it failed.

Keep the guesses is coming

I have to get back to hunting

Well, if you know how it failed, enlighten us. Stop being an attention whore.

I’m not an attention whore, that might fall into your ball park since you’re the one that basically called me a liar. Lol

And you think that that a elk rib slowed the arrow down more with an unopened head than it would have if the arrow would have been trying to push a 1 1/2 or 1 3/4 inch opened mech head through it? How old are you? 12? And please do post up this photo that reveals how the head didn't open. I'd love to see it. Because I can't imagine how a photo could show such a thing unless somebody wrapped metal wire around the blades or welded them shut.

For starters I think you’d be surprised what elk bones stop, and the zinc baby Rocky Mountain milk these are big ass roses LOL. I just said it could have I did not say it didn’t so your 12-year-old comment pretty much proves you’re a moron. I clean 10 to 30 elk a year, we find broad heads in all parts of the bodies we find bullets in all parts of the bodies, these things are bad asses. My sons bought other night took it through the liver and lungs and stayed alive for four more hours. But anyway thanks for your guesses

Well after I looked, it appears that somebody hunted with their broad heads in the rain last year never took care of them. He also shoots a slow bow and had crossbow collars on his Broadhead. Pretty sure his bow did not have the force to break through the collar. If that’s not it I don’t know but either way there’s absolutely no reason for me to come on this forum and make up a lie. You guys crack me up Especially with the guess like arrow speed, arrow weight and all that fun stuff which I have nothing to do with broadhead opening. Anyway I thought somebody might legitimately play along and have a good guess but I stand corrected. Peace out

Like I said that’s my guess but I’m not a BH engineer, I don’t shoot expandable broadhead, but I do know that mechanical shucks fails

Your reading comprehension skills suck. No one has called you a liar. What Shaw and others including myself call bullchit on is the story itself. According to you the story originates with other people you know, not from you. I have no reason to doubt they told you this crock of chit therefore I am not calling you a liar. Now these guys you are talking about on the other hand are full of chit. My advice would be if you sell them anything don't take a personal check. LOL!