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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/15/21 08:53 PM
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I plant 50# wheat 25# triticale 5# radish 5# crimson per acre.
I’m no till drilling but if I was broadcasting I wouldn’t change a thing
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/15/21 08:57 PM
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Some feed stores will mix it for you to - think Thomasville feed had a 6 way for like $20 bucks last year - they also had 4 way - 5 way etc.
Guys in here can tell u lot more specific though
Clover my main stay - I also use some wms - my plots so small and few - I don’t hav to buy much
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/16/21 07:33 AM
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My co-op is selling a 7 way mix consisting of wheat,oats,rye, peas,radish,turnips, and crimson clover for $21/bag. Does a half acre.
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/16/21 08:20 AM
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I would tailor the seed rate to the size of the field and the intensity of the grazing pressure……Smaller fields with higher grazing pressure I’d increase the stocking rates of the cereal grains……If you look up normal planting rates for things like cereal rye it ranges from 40lbs to as high as 150 lbs/acre…..As fields got larger and grazing pressure lessened I would decrease the amount of cereal grains down to the lower end and more evenly blend the mix with clover and radishes/turnips………For example if I were planting a 20 acre field I’d probably go with 50 lbs of cereal grains……2-3 lbs brassicas and 10-12 lbs of various clovers………If it were a ½ acre plot I’d probably go with 100-150 lbs of cereal grains and a pound or two of clovers with no brassicas.
Last edited by CNC; 09/16/21 08:20 AM.
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
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09/18/21 09:13 AM
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I take the size of the plot. I only have 3 so it’s easy. Then figure out the seeding rate for what I’m going to plant. I usually plant about 50% wheat, 20% turnips, 30% clover. So this equals 100lbs of wheat, 2-3 lbs of turnips, and about 7lbs of clover per acre times 6 acres. Broadcast the wheat out with the fertilizer. Mix the clover and turnips together and hand broad cast it on top last. With a little tweaking and record keeping, you buy the same amount of seed yearly. It will take a little time and figuring, but will save you in the long run. This is the easy part, if you don’t do your due diligence with soil testing, and getting your ph right, it won’t matter what or how much seed you throw out.
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
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09/18/21 09:24 AM
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50lb oats and rye each per acre. I experimented a few years and after planting oats wheat and rye close to each other it was obvious which they preferred.
I’ll hand throw what brassicas I have left from my august planting into everything.
I plant purple top, rape and radishes in mid august in other fields.
I got ladino plots also I maintain.
It’s food plots, not rocket science. Don’t over think it
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
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09/18/21 09:31 AM
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It’s food plots, not rocket science. It's not rocket science but it is soil science. Not "overthinking it" is why so many people do things like just go throw out 300 lbs of 13-13-13 blindly
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/18/21 09:40 AM
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I broadcasted 200# of night crawlers and 50# red wigglers other day. Is that enough cnc?
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/18/21 09:54 AM
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Don’t confuse worms with my yellow crickets.
Last edited by 257wbymag; 09/18/21 09:54 AM.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
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09/18/21 10:11 AM
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50lb oats and rye each per acre. I experimented a few years and after planting oats wheat and rye close to each other it was obvious which they preferred.
I’ll hand throw what brassicas I have left from my august planting into everything.
I plant purple top, rape and radishes in mid august in other fields.
I got ladino plots also I maintain.
It’s food plots, not rocket science. Don’t over think it So what were your findings from the experiment? I’m guessing oats are preferred over everything else.
If you always do what you've always done you always get what you've always got
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/18/21 10:22 AM
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When I did that experiment I found that oats were preferred early on and then it kinda split between oats and cereal rye later in the year......wheat was last but it also wasnt growing as well in my sand at the time....Oats were definitely there preferred early draw though
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
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09/18/21 10:29 AM
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I really like oats. Unfortunately in North Alabama they will freeze with a few cool nights in a row. I planted triticale and radishes this fall but I may over seed with some rye. I love Buck forage oats but they have gotten to expensive for me.
Last edited by Snuffy; 09/18/21 10:30 AM.
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
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09/18/21 10:38 AM
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I'm sure many people have good luck with wheat but the problem with it is that it is finicky compared to the other cereal grains.....it's more likely to run N deficient and yellow, etc........Grown in ideal conditions with a lot of nitrogen then it may preform just as well as anything else or better but in less than ideal conditions it doesnt compete as well with oats and especially cereal rye
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
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09/18/21 11:00 AM
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We make 100plus bushel wheat up here. It’s hardly finicky
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Diy food plot mix question
[Re: Wapiti55]
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09/18/21 12:51 PM
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Not overthinking, just trying to see what the majority opinion says. The other lease holders think we’re doing fine but I think we’re over doing by a great deal. For instance- 12 bags of wms blends and 4 bags of rye mixed in were used on 4 plots. Using onX map tools on two separate occasions, the plots total about 3 acres. Adding in the fertilizer and we spent almost a grand on 3acres. Holy chit batman......
We dont rent pigs
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