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Re: Allison boats
[Re: hunterbuck]
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08/03/21 10:36 PM
08/03/21 10:36 PM
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Jakethesnake
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I think you and I are confusing a stock bass boat and motor a bass hull with something that’s been vastly improved motor wise. The OP clearly has a stock boat and motor with mostly stock a low water pick up and maybe some changed lower unit gearing. As I stated upper 60s and slightly surprising 72-73 mph, which the OP actually got 72. Most of these boats today are running 3-4 AGM or Lithium batteries and all kinds of tournament rigged gear. Several hundreds of pounds of gear that all add up. Sure you can empty the boat, but then it’s not a bass boat is it. I kinda hunched it was somewhere in the 500 pound range of gear and equipment on board. A stock limited 150 would not run faster on that boat no matter who was driving it.
No confusion on my part at all...only experience from owning several of them. I've been fooling around with these things for a lot of years. I pretty much know what these boats are capable of. Your exact words from above... "I doubt seriously an Allison bass boat of any kind empty with a 150 could be faster than 72-73 mph. Probably more like upper 60s." QDM had it nailed though. He knows his stuff. He said it wouldn't do anywhere near 83. He was right.
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Re: Allison boats
[Re: Jakethesnake]
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08/03/21 10:50 PM
08/03/21 10:50 PM
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I think you and I are confusing a stock bass boat and motor a bass hull with something that’s been vastly improved motor wise. The OP clearly has a stock boat and motor with mostly stock a low water pick up and maybe some changed lower unit gearing. As I stated upper 60s and slightly surprising 72-73 mph, which the OP actually got 72. Most of these boats today are running 3-4 AGM or Lithium batteries and all kinds of tournament rigged gear. Several hundreds of pounds of gear that all add up. Sure you can empty the boat, but then it’s not a bass boat is it. I kinda hunched it was somewhere in the 500 pound range of gear and equipment on board. A stock limited 150 would not run faster on that boat no matter who was driving it.
No confusion on my part at all...only experience from owning several of them. I've been fooling around with these things for a lot of years. I pretty much know what these boats are capable of. Your exact words from above... "I doubt seriously an Allison bass boat of any kind empty with a 150 could be faster than 72-73 mph. Probably more like upper 60s." QDM had it nailed though. He knows his stuff. He said it wouldn't do anywhere near 83. He was right. Read my first post. I said it as well.
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Re: Allison boats
[Re: Lockjaw]
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08/11/21 03:37 PM
08/11/21 03:37 PM
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Michigan
Sasquatch Lives
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3YTO1Sde3QIf you watch, the camera boat, which is a Stroker with a Hydrotec Yamaha was the fastest boat. The Yellow Stroker with a 300 Merc on it was a 109mph gps boat. He passed all the Allison's too. If I was gonna fish, a Stroker would be the boat. Half those boats didn't even have trolling motors on them.
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Re: Allison boats
[Re: Sasquatch Lives]
#3460885
08/11/21 03:41 PM
08/11/21 03:41 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3YTO1Sde3QIf you watch, the camera boat, which is a Stroker with a Hydrotec Yamaha was the fastest boat. The Yellow Stroker with a 300 Merc on it was a 109mph gps boat. He passed all the Allison's too. If I was gonna fish, a Stroker would be the boat. Half those boats didn't even have trolling motors on them. Doesn't matter. Lose 1-2 mph. We weren't really at the river run to fish. I sure miss those days.
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Re: Allison boats
[Re: Lockjaw]
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08/11/21 08:00 PM
08/11/21 08:00 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3YTO1Sde3QIf you watch, the camera boat, which is a Stroker with a Hydrotec Yamaha was the fastest boat. The Yellow Stroker with a 300 Merc on it was a 109mph gps boat. He passed all the Allison's too. If I was gonna fish, a Stroker would be the boat. Wayne at Hydrotec builds monster Yammy's, at a monster price. I would imagine that thing's putting out close to 350hp. Strokers will flat out run with MONSTER horsepower...there's no denying that. Pony for pony though...an Allison *will* outrun a Stroker. You could skip Hydrotec and send $25K or so to Dave Bush in Arizona or Gordon Montague in Florida and have them build you a beast of an Evinrude...400hp+ and walk off and leave everything. There's no replacement for displacement. But...I still like the lil ole 2.5 Mercury's. Nothing will put out the horsepower or run...straight out of the box...like a 2.5 Mercury.
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Re: Allison boats
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3461103
08/11/21 08:20 PM
08/11/21 08:20 PM
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Wilcox County
hamma
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3YTO1Sde3QIf you watch, the camera boat, which is a Stroker with a Hydrotec Yamaha was the fastest boat. The Yellow Stroker with a 300 Merc on it was a 109mph gps boat. He passed all the Allison's too. If I was gonna fish, a Stroker would be the boat. All due respect to kirk, 109 is flat laying it down .. However just about any xb02 made (in the right hands) will run 109 (& then some) with a bone stock 2.5 Merc 280/300 drag.. It doesnt take a highly modded motor to push an xb02 to 109.. Like hunter buck said, I'll take the allison when its HP for HP or on race day...
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Re: Allison boats
[Re: eclipse829]
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08/12/21 07:27 AM
08/12/21 07:27 AM
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Drake322
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3YTO1Sde3QIf you watch, the camera boat, which is a Stroker with a Hydrotec Yamaha was the fastest boat. The Yellow Stroker with a 300 Merc on it was a 109mph gps boat. He passed all the Allison's too. If I was gonna fish, a Stroker would be the boat. Half those boats didn't even have trolling motors on them. Doesn't matter. Lose 1-2 mph. We weren't really at the river run to fish. I sure miss those days. Scott Cunningham had a Stroker that would hit low high 80s/low 90s TX loaded with 2 high school boys in it. Mine Son was one of them. The yellow/blue Stroker that is on Neely now is a fast boat but he cannot drive it. The purple Stroker in LA is a 100+ mph boat but not TX loaded. There used to be a Stroker on Lake Lanier called Top Gun. It was a 100+ boat with a 3.2 Merc. He put it up for sale a couple years back and got cold feet and took it off the market. All this said, day in and day out an Allison will out run a Stroker if both are set up just to run.
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Re: Allison boats
[Re: klay]
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08/12/21 10:21 AM
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Behind you
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