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Re: Flu shot [Re: wew3006] #3451958
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Originally Posted by wew3006
FWIW; Just heard an interesting comment by Admiral Brett Giroir who was a leader on Trumps covid Task Force. He stated that if you have not been vaccinated or have not had Covid to provide natural immunities; you WILL get the Delta variant. And; he was firm in that opinion; due to it's highly contagious nature.
Just reporting what was stated.

Just more fear mongering...bring it on


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Originally Posted by pcoladoc
Anything I post is not intended for the likes of 257/JWalker/Lockjaw/ et.al. but is for people that may have an interest in hearing real life experiences with Covid and the vaccine. You guys show your true colors and there is no effort on my part to change your minds. If you have read any of my posts, I have always said that you should do what you feel is right for you and no one nor any employer/government body should mandate your decision. You guys like to resort to the lowest common denominator of name calling or attacking someone. I certainly can handle it and can sometimes laugh with you. However, yall are like little kids that try and agitate, but when that person strikes back you go running to your mother saying " he's being mean to me".
You know what I would call the med student with the lowest passing grade Lockjaw ? I'd call him a hell of a lot smarter than you when it comes to health matters.


Thats a pretty bold statement considering you know nothing about me other than what I have posted here. But since I have had covid, I will trust my experience with it, rather than listen to you. And just so you know, I have been spot on about it from the very beginning. I said what it was going to be, just like a yearly flu shot, and what just came out from Pfizer? A booster shot improves the effectiveness of it.... I thought the vaccine and 2 doses was the end all be all? The whole thing is a scam and has been from the get go. They made it seem like there were going to be dead people in the streets, and when that didn't happen, they changed the reporting so now it's not dying of covid, its dying with it they count. Otherwise the numbers would be very low. Masking doesn't help. Social distancing doesn't either. There is no way you can sanitize everything in your world, its just not possible.

Here is another truth you can't get around. No mRna vaccine has ever been approved by the FDA. There must be a reason why. So the work around is what? Well its authorized for emergency use. A 99.97% survival rate doesn't mean there is an emergency, and yet that is how it is portrayed. And now data is beginning to show the vaccines aren't very effective with the Delta variant.

I personally don't know how anyone who calls themself a doctor could recommend a vaccine that is alleged to cause a spontaneous abortion in 82% of 1st and 2nd trimester preggo women. But then who performs abortions????

The bottom line is, and I don't care how smart you really think you are, NO ONE knows what the long term effects of these vaccines are, but one thing is for certain, while they are under emergency use authorization, no one can sue the companies who made them........

So maybe the people can sue their doctors who told them they were safe and to get the shots. After all, when there is a wrongful injury or death, who do the lawyers go after? The deep pockets.

I have way more respect for the doc's who filed the lawsuit, because at the very least, they are saying hold up a minute, we need to take a harder look at this..... rather than being a parrot for the CDC.

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Originally Posted by eclipse829
Show me where I haven't smart guy. Where'd you come from anyway? You should change your screen name to bandwagon.




You know what is funny. You go to great lengths to prove you are or aren't one thing or another, but fail to realize its what you actually say that makes people attach the liberal label to you.

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Re: Flu shot [Re: Huntn2feed5] #3451985
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I guess folks with one track minds would see it that way. Everything is political to you guys.

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I can't find any factual support for the miscarriage allegation; is there a link for that?

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https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c...e74f00/M%20for%20PI%20file%20stamped.pdf

That is the lawsuit the doctors filed. Lot's of info in it, including the abortion one.

All I am saying is if any of that has any basis in truth, no doctor should recommend the vaccine.

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Originally Posted by eclipse829
I guess folks with one track minds would see it that way. Everything is political to you guys.



No its more like everything is about truth. Here is a perfect example. And I will step on toes by saying it. I do not see how you can call yourself a Christian or a believer, and vote democrat. They support abortion. There is no bibilical foundation for abortion. Period.

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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Originally Posted by eclipse829
I guess folks with one track minds would see it that way. Everything is political to you guys.



No its more like everything is about truth. Here is a perfect example. And I will step on toes by saying it. I do not see how you can call yourself a Christian or a believer, and vote democrat. They support abortion. There is no bibilical foundation for abortion. Period.




I highly doubt if there is anyone on this site that actually goes to the trouble of voting democrat. There may be some that think a little differently on some matters or aren't quite ready to throw their hands up an claim that America is dead, but they don't vote Dem

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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
Originally Posted by eclipse829
I guess folks with one track minds would see it that way. Everything is political to you guys.



No its more like everything is about truth. Here is a perfect example. And I will step on toes by saying it. I do not see how you can call yourself a Christian or a believer, and vote democrat. They support celebrate abortion. There is no bibilical foundation for abortion. Period.



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Re: Flu shot [Re: wew3006] #3452091
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Originally Posted by wew3006
I can't find any factual support for the miscarriage allegation; is there a link for that?


People like Lockjaw take everything they read/see as facts as long as it goes along with their beliefs and call BS on any thing that goes counter to them. I have not seen a single viable bit of info alleging the vaccine causes spontaneous abortion at any higher rate than the know incidence.

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Originally Posted by Lockjaw
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c...e74f00/M%20for%20PI%20file%20stamped.pdf

That is the lawsuit the doctors filed. Lot's of info in it, including the abortion one.

All I am saying is if any of that has any basis in truth, no doctor should recommend the vaccine.


From the complainants website:
"Inflammation at the placenta of pregnant women who receive the vaccine have been reported. Caution if you desire future pregnancies.
The “vaccine” is designed to create antibodies to attack the viral s-protein. That protein is very similar genetically to the proteins made by the placenta. Some reported cases of inflammation have been made.

We urge extreme caution for those of you that desire future pregnancies. This reaction could affect future childbearing. We just do not know."

Thats a FAR stretch from 82% miscarriages in 1/2 trimesters.

For the record; I am in favor of freedom of choice when it comes to vaccines/healthcare; period.


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Re: Flu shot [Re: wew3006] #3452111
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Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c...e74f00/M%20for%20PI%20file%20stamped.pdf

That is the lawsuit the doctors filed. Lot's of info in it, including the abortion one.

All I am saying is if any of that has any basis in truth, no doctor should recommend the vaccine.


From the complainants website:
"Inflammation at the placenta of pregnant women who receive the vaccine have been reported. Caution if you desire future pregnancies.
The “vaccine” is designed to create antibodies to attack the viral s-protein. That protein is very similar genetically to the proteins made by the placenta. Some reported cases of inflammation have been made.

We urge extreme caution for those of you that desire future pregnancies. This reaction could affect future childbearing. We just do not know."

Thats a FAR stretch from 82% miscarriages in 1/2 trimesters.

For the record; I for in favor of freedom of choice when it comes to vaccines/healthcare; period.


New England Journal of medicine was the source according to the lawsuit filed....


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Originally Posted by jb20
Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by Lockjaw
https://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c...e74f00/M%20for%20PI%20file%20stamped.pdf

That is the lawsuit the doctors filed. Lot's of info in it, including the abortion one.

All I am saying is if any of that has any basis in truth, no doctor should recommend the vaccine.


From the complainants website:
"Inflammation at the placenta of pregnant women who receive the vaccine have been reported. Caution if you desire future pregnancies.
The “vaccine” is designed to create antibodies to attack the viral s-protein. That protein is very similar genetically to the proteins made by the placenta. Some reported cases of inflammation have been made.

We urge extreme caution for those of you that desire future pregnancies. This reaction could affect future childbearing. We just do not know."

Thats a FAR stretch from 82% miscarriages in 1/2 trimesters.

For the record; I for in favor of freedom of choice when it comes to vaccines/healthcare; period.


New England Journal of medicine was the source according to the lawsuit filed....


Here the NEJM study; no mention of those numbers(that I can find with a word search); which would be a HUGE number of women

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2104983


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Re: Flu shot [Re: Huntn2feed5] #3452129
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Eclipse, im not really that big into politics. I love the truth and i hate lies. I love right and hate wrong. I absolutely despise seeing people get stepped on. It blows my mind the things i see go on. I stay flabbergasted alot. And i have a hard time keeping my mouth shut.

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Originally Posted by wew3006
FWIW; Just heard an interesting comment by Admiral Brett Giroir who was a leader on Trumps covid Task Force. He stated that if you have not been vaccinated or have not had Covid to provide natural immunities; you WILL get the Delta variant. And; he was firm in that opinion; due to it's highly contagious nature.
Just reporting what was stated.



This has to be fake news. He must've been bought off by the cabal. Or he was lying then and is lying now. Certainly can't be true. They all said last year this would go away.


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