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Somebody in trouble #3393905
04/19/21 11:13 AM
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A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393913
04/19/21 11:21 AM
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That’s gonna leave a mark.


Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393917
04/19/21 11:24 AM
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Somebody’s definitely in trouble, but good lord they are a turkey killing machine.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393923
04/19/21 11:33 AM
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Looks like a fun hunt until he got to the truck



Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393936
04/19/21 12:00 PM
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Ain’t condoning this but he ain’t very smart, warden coulda put him in the pic as well.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393938
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Whats wrong?? You guys have a limit of 5 he only has 4??

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: ParrotHead89] #3393944
04/19/21 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ParrotHead89
Whats wrong?? You guys have a limit of 5 he only has 4??

Limit of 5, bag/possession of 1 per day. big fines coming to this fella here and I’ll bet this isn’t his first time with a multi bird day.


Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393946
04/19/21 12:11 PM
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He’s gonna be working a long time to pay off that fine and probably never get to hunt again


When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393950
04/19/21 12:26 PM
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Ourtown, AL
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Gotta be fake news...
there’s several around here that like to talk about how DCNR doesn’t enforce limits or stop poaching during turkey season.

Looks like a flashlight mounted in a barrel band forward of the mag tube on that 870.
Ol boy was limb launching in the dark if you ask me.

Reckon which ALDeer team he was on? 😂😂😂


We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870

Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: BCLC] #3393958
04/19/21 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Gotta be fake news...
there’s several around here that like to talk about how DCNR doesn’t enforce limits or stop poaching during turkey season.

Looks like a flashlight mounted in a barrel band forward of the mag tube on that 870.
Ol boy was limb launching in the dark if you ask me.

Reckon which ALDeer team he was on? 😂😂😂


^^^^^This right here. I'll bet you a dollar those birds were roosted and shot off the limb before first light. Unless he uses his shotgun as a flashlight for walking in, makes you kinda wonder why he's got what looks to be a streamlight rechargeable bolted on underneath the barrel. I'll also be willing to bet that GW was tipped off by someone that knew what this old boy was doing and didnt just happen to be there to catch him coming out.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393959
04/19/21 12:34 PM
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I had read it was in south carolina

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: deadeye48] #3393962
04/19/21 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
He’s gonna be working a long time to pay off that fine and probably never get to hunt again


You are joking right? This is AL, he'll probably get a $1000 or $1500 fine and his license suspended for maybe a year or two. Fines and penalties in AL related to hunting offenses such as hunting without a license, killing over the limit, trespassing, hunting out of season, hunting at night etc, are all minimal and a joke compared to other states that are serious about stopping outlaws and game theft.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: abolt300] #3393965
04/19/21 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by BCLC
Gotta be fake news...
there’s several around here that like to talk about how DCNR doesn’t enforce limits or stop poaching during turkey season.

Looks like a flashlight mounted in a barrel band forward of the mag tube on that 870.
Ol boy was limb launching in the dark if you ask me.

Reckon which ALDeer team he was on? 😂😂😂


^^^^^This right here. I'll bet you a dollar those birds were roosted and shot off the limb before first light. Unless he uses his shotgun as a flashlight for walking in, makes you kinda wonder why he's got what looks to be a streamlight rechargeable bolted on underneath the barrel. I'll also be willing to bet that GW was tipped off by someone that knew what this old boy was doing and didnt just happen to be there to catch him coming out.



That's a tactacam...... kinda like a go pro for your gun. Idiot probably video'd himself wiping out an early season group of longbeards over his decoys. This was in south carolina.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393976
04/19/21 12:53 PM
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I'm not 100% postive that is a tactacam. If it is, it is mounted awful far below the barrel. Looks more like it is mounted low like that for clearance of a flashlight bell to me. Due to the way the gun is shown with the vest in front, I cant tell if it has a bell on it or not. Could be either IMO.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Atoler] #3393988
04/19/21 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Atoler
Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by BCLC
Gotta be fake news...
there’s several around here that like to talk about how DCNR doesn’t enforce limits or stop poaching during turkey season.

Looks like a flashlight mounted in a barrel band forward of the mag tube on that 870.
Ol boy was limb launching in the dark if you ask me.

Reckon which ALDeer team he was on? 😂😂😂


^^^^^This right here. I'll bet you a dollar those birds were roosted and shot off the limb before first light. Unless he uses his shotgun as a flashlight for walking in, makes you kinda wonder why he's got what looks to be a streamlight rechargeable bolted on underneath the barrel. I'll also be willing to bet that GW was tipped off by someone that knew what this old boy was doing and didnt just happen to be there to catch him coming out.



That's a tactacam...... kinda like a go pro for your gun. Idiot probably video'd himself wiping out an early season group of longbeards over his decoys. This was in south carolina.

Lmao at y’all. Flashlight? 😂

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393993
04/19/21 01:18 PM
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Ain’t no AL game warden gonna make a stop like that. You gotta go to work first.


Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!!
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I'm the paterfamilias
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3393995
04/19/21 01:20 PM
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Ourtown, AL
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In the little blurry pic I’m looking at on my phone screen it could be a coon pecker for all I know. 🤷🏿‍♂️


We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870

Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: JDawg] #3393997
04/19/21 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JDawg
I had read it was in south carolina


Only accurate rifles are interesting.
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394007
04/19/21 01:36 PM
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Tried to zoom in on his arm patch but it got to blurry.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394020
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Do they have a FB page for DNR? Surely it would be on there to show everyone what they did.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394026
04/19/21 02:00 PM
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Is that a SCDNR truck or did they get homeboy’s truck too?


GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394030
04/19/21 02:02 PM
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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394036
04/19/21 02:12 PM
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IT WASN'T IN ALABAMA, NOT AN ALABAMA GW.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394042
04/19/21 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wiley Coyote
Well, the way I see it is there's just too many assholes
On a good day there's a bunch of assholes in here. On a bad day there's too many assholes in here.
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394046
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Those field turkeys he couldn’t hunt drove him insane.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394057
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We gonna see MGhunts in this condition soon 🤣🤣

Last edited by Mbrock; 04/19/21 02:51 PM.
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Mbrock] #3394065
04/19/21 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
We gonna see MGhunts in this condition soon 🤣🤣


AND the bed of his truck will have one of the farmer’s cows in it for screwing up his hunts


ALDeer physics: for every opinion, there's an equal & opposite opinion

A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer.
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Mbrock] #3394071
04/19/21 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
We gonna see MGhunts in this condition soon 🤣🤣

LMFAO. This is true. Great example of a couple of things:

- when piddlin' goes wrong
- and the effect pressure can have on turkeys. Bet they hadn't left old mans sanctuary all year and this guy had to listen to them all season said "f it I'm going in"

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394092
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That will sting his arse for a while


Not all Indians were hunters some toted firewood
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394093
04/19/21 03:34 PM
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HAHA you'll see me with a big ole steak dinner that was the farmer's cow.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394100
04/19/21 03:48 PM
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I wonder if he had the video as well, and if it was looked ay by the warden?

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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: 257wbymag] #3394118
04/19/21 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Ain’t no AL game warden gonna make a stop like that. You gotta go to work first.


Matt isn't lying rofl


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Comes to us at midnight very clean.
It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands.
It hopes we've learned something from yesterday."
Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394185
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Take some testicles to do that takes some even bigger ones to do that on someone else's land.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394199
04/19/21 06:19 PM
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Probably fanned them and killed 2 or 3 with one shot and got the last one while running off.


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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394200
04/19/21 06:23 PM
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I thought you could kill five

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394270
04/19/21 07:59 PM
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Rodgestalker - it would not b that hard - you could do it in one shot - had several come in on different occasions - their heads can get all in one wad - you hav to let them separate or you can kill the hole group - nothing special by the shooter - it’s the way the guns pattern at 30 yards and out - generally when I have called in 3-4 - their are times when u hav to let them separate

Been while since I called in 3-4 or more 😀


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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: abolt300] #3394271
04/19/21 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by deadeye48
He’s gonna be working a long time to pay off that fine and probably never get to hunt again


You are joking right? This is AL, he'll probably get a $1000 or $1500 fine and his license suspended for maybe a year or two. Fines and penalties in AL related to hunting offenses such as hunting without a license, killing over the limit, trespassing, hunting out of season, hunting at night etc, are all minimal and a joke compared to other states that are serious about stopping outlaws and game theft.

Y'all act like he had a license to start with! wink

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: TDog93] #3394294
04/19/21 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TDog93
Rodgestalker - it would not b that hard - you could do it in one shot - had several come in on different occasions - their heads can get all in one wad - you hav to let them separate or you can kill the hole group - nothing special by the shooter - it’s the way the guns pattern at 30 yards and out - generally when I have called in 3-4 - their are times when u hav to let them separate

Been while since I called in 3-4 or more 😀


Had 6 gobbling in the afternoon in Greene County 15 years ago. 2 year olds in
wide open river bottom.

I swear they came in to 35 yards and stood in a wad gobbling and fighting for
15 minutes.

My buddy, the landowner, said shoot about 20 times. They were on my side
of the tree.

I said “I really don’t think you want me to shoot”.

They walked off and not a shot was fired.

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394370
04/19/21 10:11 PM
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Dang it Oldbowhunter - that was a heck of a hunt - u did good - they always separated for me but a bunch of different times I was like - man I could kill all 3-5 of these but it did not last too long before they separate - you had your patience tried


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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394390
04/20/21 12:58 AM
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I don't know seems like kliiing them like that just takes the fun out of hunting them

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394400
04/20/21 05:36 AM
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The comment with the guy asking for his Thermacell cracked me up. 😂

Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3394539
04/20/21 09:21 AM
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Reckon they took the truck, too?


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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Hoytdad10] #3395084
04/21/21 07:03 AM
04/21/21 07:03 AM
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Re: Somebody in trouble [Re: Forrestgump1] #3396886
04/24/21 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
Somebody’s definitely in trouble, but good lord they are a turkey killing machine.
. What they did was they dug a hole and filled it with corn, they didn't broadcast it except to get them to come to the hole.. The turkeys come and feed directly into the hole. 1 shot you can get several at a time. I doubt this just happened, it probably happened early in the year before the gobblers broke up from their groups. I've never done it, but my uncle years ago told me how some of the folks used to do it.


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