Where does the money go with things like this? Where is the baiting fee money going? I read somewhere that license sales were up and the state is hiring 15 new game wardens......Does the baiting money just go into the same fund? Who oversees how it gets spent?

You folk need to determine what you really mean by “out of staters”. I and my family own over 2700 acres total from three locations and two houses in Alabama but we all have our “residency” in other states. Some of our properties were deeded to our family by Presidents James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, and both Harrisons.

So in a way us “out a staters” can be more resident than some of you good ole punks especially the ones that rent, lease, or own houses on wheels.

Same. I don't see the problem? We already have a limit, already have a reporting system, so what's the difference? Already have outlaws who aren't gonna pay one single bit of attention to the "rules" or "tags" anyway. Nobody is going to kill more or less because of "tags".

Do you have to pay for the tags?....okay, I'll do that. I suppose there's a tiny chance it would weed out some of the bad.

I say it all the time.... Alabama hunters are the dangdest thing I've seen. We gripe and moan about doing the same things that every state we envy has been doing for a lifetime. In the words of C.S. Lewis- " like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea."

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Lot of complaining goes on - did not hear that in the other states I lived in and they had similar laws and they had fewer deer and Turkey tags 😀 (Arky got like 2 buck and 1 turkey where I was at and FL got 2 turkey)

THE complaining is a lot from the fact that all of these rules are new TO US IN ALABAMA. We have had very liberal rules for the last 100 years under a very different Dept and certainly better Directors like Charles Kelly. A LOT hunters don't want to be like other states, all hunters aren't looking to kill a B&C buck. They just want to go deer hunting and take their kids hunting without jumping thru 400 hoops or risking criminal prosecution.

I figure its probably getting to be about 50/50 or we wouldn't keep having this issue every year. The bottom line is both sides need to come to some sort of an agreement or we'll end up losing everything. Hunters make up around 10 percent of the population. A vast majority of those remaining would have no problem if any of us ever got the chance to hunt ever again. Our energy would be better spent ensuring our rights are preserved rather than fighting amongst each other. That even comes to in-staters and out-of-staters. I'll eat my crow on my comment above if it means guarantying future generations the right to hunt.

Mr Kelly was the best

I dang sure wouldnt go quite so far as to say that, but he was certainly better than what we currently have in "Chuckie".

WTF will we need to pay YET ANOTHER fee for hunting coyotes and hogs at night? We already are paying a license.

Damn. F'king fees and government overreach. ALWAYS someone with their f'king hand out for money.

I miss Charles, too. He could be a dictatorial asshole and hold a grudge, but he stuck up for common sense and the common guy.

I’m not paying another fee. Bought a lifetime license years ago. Won’t spend another dime. Never been an outlaw before but got walker county blood in me.

Here's the bill info: http://alisondb.legislature.state.a....aspx?BILL=HB458&WIN_TYPE=BillResult

Summary: "Hunting, feral swine and coyote hunting at night permitted with an appropriate license under certain circumstances, Sec. 9-11-235 am'd."


AGAIN -- WTF is there another license required if you already have a Lifetime or other hunting license?

One answer -- Money.

The fee would be $15 for residents and $51 for nonresidents.


Here is the "engrossed" bill that includes fines and exemptions. I thought exemptions were bad, though, because they're leeches like the field trial folks who didn't buy a license and contribute their fair share.

http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/ALISON/SearchableInstruments/2021RS/PrintFiles/HB458-eng.pdf


This is straight-up f'king greedy bullchit.

so is it $30 to hunt them at night over bait? $15 for the bait license, $15 for the night hunting license.

Can i just pay $100 and get to bait everything and hunt everything at night?

Dunno. Probably.

I'm just going to go full outlaw.....

Just like the Dems in D.C. now, adding more fees on the working class.

I thought we had conservatives in Montgomery. Guess not.

Well, when is this proposed "special" nighttime hog and coyote hunting season???

I presume (and hope) that it is not during the deer season.

I guess soon we'll have a special nighttime license for hunting coons. And one for using dogs, since the dogs are impacting the resources, too.

I'm sure some asswagon in in the Legislature at some point will demand that anyone using a dog to track deer must be certified, registered, licensed and have to pay fees.

It just adds another competitive element to hunting, I’m in.

Just what kind of full outlaw are yooose guys talking about?

Don’t worry, it won’t be long before we will not only have to buy a license, but we’ll have to buy the tags for the deer.