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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: ALFisher]
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02/16/21 12:50 PM
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My processor said several of their best customers didn't bring them a single deer to process this year . Hmmmm Seriously??? I have my doubts about that. If you are going through all the trouble to haul your deer to a processor, you aren't going to let a phone app interfere with that, in my opinion. She was saying she knows they still were killing deer but processing them their self . Simply, They don't like the check in system . When you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns . When you make folks report their deer kills they will do it themselves. She was almost glad they didn't bring them any , I think she said they did over 400.
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: mike35549]
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02/16/21 01:03 PM
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All of the talk of processors going out of business because of it was absolutely ridiculous. All of the ones I know around here was either about normal or above normal. It didnt take me any longer to check a deer in than it ever has.
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: swamp_fever2002]
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02/16/21 01:36 PM
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Thanks for those links. ************ Those two links look like surveys and statistical estimates (not GC reported totals) - and looks like both of those years the average estimate was about 200,000 deer killed each of those two previous years. ---->>> So this past season was close to the prior two season estimates for total deer kills. What were the actual GC totals for the two prior years? And 5 years? I could not find a link, but IIRC the DCNR published end of the season GC totals for the last many years since GC was implemented. And there were links with discussions on Aldeer about those end of the season totals each years. Google isn't helping me find them. Neither is the Outdoor Alabama website. ************ Here are some things I find noteworthy: 1. the actual official and final GC numbers for 2020-21 are very close to the annual statistical estimates of the two prior years for total deer killed. 2. if the first year total reported deer kill on GC of 82,000 was 35% reporting then 195,000 = about 83% reporting. That is the main thing I was interested in exploring - what is the estimated compliance rate at this time? It has clearly GONE WAY UP from where it started 5 seasons ago. And appears to be OVER 80%. 3. I never believed the old deer total estimates from way on back that said Alabama hunters were killing 400,000-450,000 deer a year. 4. I also never believed the DCNR estimates that there were 1.7-2 Million deer in Alabama. 5. Looks like buck vs. doe kills are getting more equal which is better then it was before buck limits. Those are the kind of issues and questions I was interested in. Obviously, the compliance with GC rate is WAY UP so the DCNR must be pleased with that.
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: WmHunter]
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02/16/21 01:50 PM
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[quote=swamp_fever2002]
Obviously, the DEMANDED compliance with GC rate is WAY UP so the DCNR must be GIDDY with that. Fixed it for you.
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: WmHunter]
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02/16/21 05:15 PM
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
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02/17/21 12:47 PM
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Probably located near the country What. /pulpfiction/
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
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02/17/21 01:18 PM
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Game Check Totals for prior years:
2019-2020: Bucks - 55083, Does - 39863, Total - 95082 2018-2019: Bucks - 48751, Does - 35363, Total - 84148 2017-2018: Bucks - 45669, Does - 30338, Total - 76040 2016-2017: Bucks - 45569, Does - 36871, Total - 82496
You have to click County Comparison from the drop down at the top under Seasonal Statistics then choose the All County Comparison. appreciate that! *********** I found more links to prior years statistical studies: https://www.outdooralabama.com/research/hunter-survey-resultsIt appears to me that the high end of the statistical estimates the last several years - 220,000+ seem to be close to what the real annual deer kill is. Perhaps a little higher but not much. Maybe 230k-250K max. So the GC compliance rate appears right in the 82% - 85% range. Obviously, requiring processors and taxidermists to have the GC confirmation number has more then doubled GC compliance.
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: WmHunter]
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02/17/21 01:40 PM
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I'd guess that probably was the expectation with forcing the processors and taxidermists to comply. 220K +/- doesnt sound too farfetched, to be honest, on an average year.
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: WmHunter]
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02/17/21 03:10 PM
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It appears what we have learned is you can reach the same conclusions regarding the total deer killed (harvested/found and claimed) with an estimated 30% compliance rate that you can with an 80%+ compliance rate. And that the government can keep piling on more rules and regulations to get the same effect as not piling on more rules and regulations. But rest assured that will not stop them from that and never publishing the reason for all the rules and regulations for their experiments. Carry on.
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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics
[Re: Fun4all]
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02/17/21 07:16 PM
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It appears what we have learned is you can reach the same conclusions regarding the total deer killed (harvested/found and claimed) with an estimated 30% compliance rate that you can with an 80%+ compliance rate. And that the government can keep piling on more rules and regulations to get the same effect as not piling on more rules and regulations. But rest assured that will not stop them from that and never publishing the reason for all the rules and regulations for their experiments. Carry on. X1000!!! If “they” would publish some sort of goal or direction “they” want to go then all this BS would be easier to swallow. Bigger numbers? Smaller numbers? Better bucks? Etc. etc.
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