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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353315
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In these days, how do you know how the deer identified? Useless statistics that are being used to justify funding, jobs, etc.

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353363
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Just to clarify for a few about the deer that were dropped off at a processor or taxidermist. This was basically just to make sure they were game checked. The processor nor taxidermist sent any numbers to the state or anybody else. We were only told not to take a deer unless it was checked. Local GW came by and checked my inventory twice.

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353636
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There's always going to be outlaws that don't report, kill over the limit, spotlight, etc. I put all of those in the same category. The deer are a resource for all of us. I wish there were no outlaws. But, as long as there are folks willing to teach their kids to skate the regulations, there always will be.

As to the gamecheck #'s, I was really surprised at the Buck/Doe ratio.

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: ALFisher] #3353731
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Originally Posted by ALFisher
Originally Posted by coachg34
My processor said several of their best customers didn't bring them a single deer to process this year . Hmmmm


Seriously??? I have my doubts about that. If you are going through all the trouble to haul your deer to a processor, you aren't going to let a phone app interfere with that, in my opinion.

She was saying she knows they still were killing deer but processing them their self . Simply, They don't like the check in system . When you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns . When you make folks report their deer kills they will do it themselves. She was almost glad they didn't bring them any , I think she said they did over 400.

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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353737
02/16/21 12:57 PM
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All of the talk of processors going out of business because of it was absolutely ridiculous. All of the ones I know around here was either about normal or above normal.


If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: mike35549] #3353745
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Originally Posted by mike35549
All of the talk of processors going out of business because of it was absolutely ridiculous. All of the ones I know around here was either about normal or above normal.

It didnt take me any longer to check a deer in than it ever has.

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: swamp_fever2002] #3353777
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Thanks for those links.

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Those two links look like surveys and statistical estimates (not GC reported totals) - and looks like both of those years the average estimate was about 200,000 deer killed each of those two previous years. ---->>> So this past season was close to the prior two season estimates for total deer kills.

What were the actual GC totals for the two prior years? And 5 years?
I could not find a link, but IIRC the DCNR published end of the season GC totals for the last many years since GC was implemented.
And there were links with discussions on Aldeer about those end of the season totals each years. Google isn't helping me find them. Neither is the Outdoor Alabama website.

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Here are some things I find noteworthy:

1. the actual official and final GC numbers for 2020-21 are very close to the annual statistical estimates of the two prior years for total deer killed.

2. if the first year total reported deer kill on GC of 82,000 was 35% reporting then 195,000 = about 83% reporting. That is the main thing I was interested in exploring - what is the estimated compliance rate at this time? It has clearly GONE WAY UP from where it started 5 seasons ago. And appears to be OVER 80%.

3. I never believed the old deer total estimates from way on back that said Alabama hunters were killing 400,000-450,000 deer a year.

4. I also never believed the DCNR estimates that there were 1.7-2 Million deer in Alabama.

5. Looks like buck vs. doe kills are getting more equal which is better then it was before buck limits.

Those are the kind of issues and questions I was interested in.
Obviously, the compliance with GC rate is WAY UP so the DCNR must be pleased with that.

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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353787
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
[quote=swamp_fever2002]

Obviously, the DEMANDED compliance with GC rate is WAY UP so the DCNR must be GIDDY with that.


Fixed it for you.


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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353914
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Tuscaloosa County got hammered. And that's just what was reported.

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353980
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Game Check Totals for prior years:

2019-2020: Bucks - 55083, Does - 39863, Total - 95082
2018-2019: Bucks - 48751, Does - 35363, Total - 84148
2017-2018: Bucks - 45669, Does - 30338, Total - 76040
2016-2017: Bucks - 45569, Does - 36871, Total - 82496

You have to click County Comparison from the drop down at the top under Seasonal Statistics then choose the All County Comparison.

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3353986
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Where is Not county?

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: Ben2] #3354121
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Where is Not county?

County not specified.

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3354494
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I guess for lost hunters ?

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: Ben2] #3354697
02/17/21 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Where is Not county?


Probably located near the country What.

/pulpfiction/


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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: 87v6bird] #3354717
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Originally Posted by 87v6bird
Game Check Totals for prior years:

2019-2020: Bucks - 55083, Does - 39863, Total - 95082
2018-2019: Bucks - 48751, Does - 35363, Total - 84148
2017-2018: Bucks - 45669, Does - 30338, Total - 76040
2016-2017: Bucks - 45569, Does - 36871, Total - 82496

You have to click County Comparison from the drop down at the top under Seasonal Statistics then choose the All County Comparison.


appreciate that!

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I found more links to prior years statistical studies:

https://www.outdooralabama.com/research/hunter-survey-results

It appears to me that the high end of the statistical estimates the last several years - 220,000+ seem to be close to what the real annual deer kill is.
Perhaps a little higher but not much. Maybe 230k-250K max.
So the GC compliance rate appears right in the 82% - 85% range.
Obviously, requiring processors and taxidermists to have the GC confirmation number has more then doubled GC compliance.


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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3354735
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I'd guess that probably was the expectation with forcing the processors and taxidermists to comply. 220K +/- doesnt sound too farfetched, to be honest, on an average year.


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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3354800
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It appears what we have learned is you can reach the same conclusions regarding the total deer killed (harvested/found and claimed) with an estimated 30% compliance rate that you can with an 80%+ compliance rate. And that the government can keep piling on more rules and regulations to get the same effect as not piling on more rules and regulations. But rest assured that will not stop them from that and never publishing the reason for all the rules and regulations for their experiments. Carry on.


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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: Fun4all] #3354823
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Originally Posted by Fun4all
It appears what we have learned is you can reach the same conclusions regarding the total deer killed (harvested/found and claimed) with an estimated 30% compliance rate that you can with an 80%+ compliance rate. And that the government can keep piling on more rules and regulations to get the same effect as not piling on more rules and regulations. But rest assured that will not stop them from that and never publishing the reason for all the rules and regulations for their experiments. Carry on.



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Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: WmHunter] #3354941
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What has changed since Alabama rolled out game check? Nothing, therefore game check is a waste of time.. All it is is a tool that Alabama uses to actually say they doing something and someone is using the system to keep their gravy job🤔

Re: 2020-2021 Game Check Statistics [Re: Fun4all] #3354995
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Originally Posted by Fun4all
It appears what we have learned is you can reach the same conclusions regarding the total deer killed (harvested/found and claimed) with an estimated 30% compliance rate that you can with an 80%+ compliance rate. And that the government can keep piling on more rules and regulations to get the same effect as not piling on more rules and regulations. But rest assured that will not stop them from that and never publishing the reason for all the rules and regulations for their experiments. Carry on.



X1000!!! If “they” would publish some sort of goal or direction “they” want to go then all this BS would be easier to swallow. Bigger numbers? Smaller numbers? Better bucks? Etc. etc.

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