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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Ar1220]
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12/29/20 09:20 AM
12/29/20 09:20 AM
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Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,074 Montgomery, Alabama
jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,074
Montgomery, Alabama
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Y'all realize it's all about the money we are one a few states that has to pay extra to hunt our own public land and to pour out a sack or corn. My resident license here is almost half of what I paid for a non resident license in indiana and half of what I paid in nebraska for a non resident No doubt it's about money.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: jaredhunts]
#3306331
12/29/20 09:35 AM
12/29/20 09:35 AM
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Posts: 9,081 USA
marshmud991
14 point
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14 point
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Y'all realize it's all about the money we are one a few states that has to pay extra to hunt our own public land and to pour out a sack or corn. My resident license here is almost half of what I paid for a non resident license in indiana and half of what I paid in nebraska for a non resident No doubt it's about money. Here in Louisiana you have to buy a different license for what ever weapon you hunt for that particular season. Have to have an archery license to hunt archery season. Primitive license of that season. Also have to have a “Big Game” license and your “Basic” hunting license to go with those 2. Costs dam near $50 just to hunt a deer here and have to carry paper tags and they cannot be separated from the license unless it’s on a deer or turkey. If accidentally separated they are void and cannot be used. Never heard of anyone being checked or cited for this. You have to fill out the tag and attach it to the deer or turkey before you move it and then have to check it and get confirmation # and write that on your license. Alabama game check is way simpler then all the crap we have to do.
Last edited by marshmud991; 12/29/20 09:38 AM.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/29/20 10:11 AM
12/29/20 10:11 AM
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Posts: 36,250 alabama
BhamFred
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 36,250
alabama
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Montgomery keeps piling new rules and regulations on us, making it harder just to go hunting or take a kid hunting and they wonder why we balk. There were easier ways to gather data on kills that did not require criminalizing non compliance. Feds do it every year. I wonder how much that would of cost vs how much they have spent trying to get compliance on this bulldoodoo system we are now burdened with?????????
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3306406
12/29/20 10:59 AM
12/29/20 10:59 AM
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Joined: May 2018
Posts: 314 Northport, AL
BAR II .270
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I get it...Chuck Sykes is not a likable guy!
And, maybe I get blasted on this, but that’s ok, it’s my opinion and I’ve got thick skin, but to say Game Check is too complicated is just plain BS! It’s a heck of a lot easier than posting a pic on Aldeer, that’s for dang sure!
Every state is responsible for managing its natural resources. Anyone worth their salt, wants to have reliable data to help in making the best decisions possible. The best system and the resulting decisions may be up for debate, but as responsible stewards, we should want to provide the best harvest data. We have a very liberal hunting season and reasonable bag limits (check what other states are doing). Conspiracy theories or tin foil hats be damned, it’s not a bad system. It’s not perfect, but we’d all gripe about it if it was.
Hunt ethically, teach kids how and report your kills (most of them anyway)!
Trump 2020
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: ACT3]
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12/29/20 12:05 PM
12/29/20 12:05 PM
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Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,074 Montgomery, Alabama
jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,074
Montgomery, Alabama
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Most everyone uses apps to order food, shop on amazon, look at deer cam pictures, watch youtube, listen to music, track packages etc............ but logging a harvest on an app is complicated and burdensome? I guess I am in the minority - if any of my kids or I kill a deer, we fill out the game check and move on. Never even considered not doing it or the burden that it placed on me. It has been aggravating as hell at times using the app but always had a paper copy for back up. I also think it is ridiculous that i have to pay $15 for a baiting license for my non licensed hunter but do it just the same. IMO the actual burden is being placed on the processors and taxidermists because of the general public not reporting. I'm not forced to use waiter or wallmart pickup. We choose too. The deer app forces us to do something.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: BhamFred]
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12/29/20 12:13 PM
12/29/20 12:13 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,873 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,873
Awbarn, AL
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Montgomery keeps piling new rules and regulations on us, making it harder just to go hunting or take a kid hunting and they wonder why we balk. There were easier ways to gather data on kills that did not require criminalizing non compliance. Feds do it every year. I wonder how much that would of cost vs how much they have spent trying to get compliance on this bulldoodoo system we are now burdened with?????????
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: wk2hnt]
#3306475
12/29/20 12:19 PM
12/29/20 12:19 PM
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Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 34,610 Boxes Cove
2Dogs
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 34,610
Boxes Cove
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I hate any government entity giving me orders on what to do on my own land because they certainly did nothing to help me work and buy it but I am still going to report the deer I kill. It’s really easy and I think it going to prove that there are not nearly as many deer killed as the state has always claimed and I really believe the kills are getting fewer every year. Sure there are places with too many deer but overall I really don’t think the popish as high as the state claims. February hunting in north Alabama is crazy and I now it’s a choice to go but lots of people are going to go as long as the season is open. I don’t like chuck sykes condescending attitude either for what that’s worth. You can thank lying , backroom dealing Chuck for the February season in the top part of Alabama.
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Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
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12/29/20 03:32 PM
12/29/20 03:32 PM
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abolt300
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Chuckie said he wants/needs data to make good decisions. Well, my question is what is he going to do when the data shows that the numbers have been low, not because of a lack of participation, but because the deer simply are not being killed at the numbers the state has always claimed (300,000 + annually). That leads to one or two conclusions, either people have decided that they no longer like to shoot deer, or, our deer herd has been mismanaged for the past 10-15 yrs and the herd is not nearly as healthy and large as Chuckie says it is. Season is 2/3's gone and the rut is winding down in the north part of the state. Assuming that reported kills continue at the same rate for the remainder of the season, there will be roughly 135,000 - 160,000 deer checked in on game check. Half of what the state has claimed as the annual kill number, By including the processors and taxis in the enforcement process, he's pretty much guaranteed to have 75+% participation. Now, if that is the case, and the true annual harvest is half of what has been claimed for the past 20 yrs, will Chuck cut down on the statewide doe slaughter, lower the bag limit and shorten the season (all sound management decisions based on the data, if the data shows the herd as not being in the shape or size that he claims) or will he bow down to the almighty dollars generated for the state by hunting and just let things roll on along?????? I've got a strange feeling that I already know which will influence Chuckie's decision.....$$$
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: abolt300]
#3306662
12/29/20 04:31 PM
12/29/20 04:31 PM
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Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,074 Montgomery, Alabama
jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 13,074
Montgomery, Alabama
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Chuckie said he wants/needs data to make good decisions. Well, my question is what is he going to do when the data shows that the numbers have been low, not because of a lack of participation, but because the deer simply are not being killed at the numbers the state has always claimed (300,000 + annually). That leads to one or two conclusions, either people have decided that they no longer like to shoot deer, or, our deer herd has been mismanaged for the past 10-15 yrs and the herd is not nearly as healthy and large as Chuckie says it is. Season is 2/3's gone and the rut is winding down in the north part of the state. Assuming that reported kills continue at the same rate for the remainder of the season, there will be roughly 135,000 - 160,000 deer checked in on game check. Half of what the state has claimed as the annual kill number, By including the processors and taxis in the enforcement process, he's pretty much guaranteed to have 75+% participation. Now, if that is the case, and the true annual harvest is half of what has been claimed for the past 20 yrs, will Chuck cut down on the statewide doe slaughter, lower the bag limit and shorten the season (all sound management decisions based on the data, if the data shows the herd as not being in the shape or size that he claims) or will he bow down to the almighty dollars generated for the state by hunting and just let things roll on along?????? I've got a strange feeling that I already know which will influence Chuckie's decision.....$$$ If its about that type of money, then why bother with game check at all?
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: Cuz-Pat]
#3306670
12/29/20 04:34 PM
12/29/20 04:34 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,873 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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You know the funny or not so funny thing I guess about all of this data is that above all else what they really need is “trending data”…….Which in essence means that they just hit the reset button when they started making the processors record the hunter’s number and sich…….Just like Matt said…..”The numbers are WAY different than they were last year”……..Participation has changed but it tells us nothing really about the deer until we create a new trend line…..correct? Which means that as long as they continue to tinker with participation and never let it remain a “constant” then we’ll still be hitting the reset until we get to some place where they are happy and then let it ride for a while.
Last edited by CNC; 12/29/20 04:35 PM.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Chuck Sykes and his Game Check baby...
[Re: CNC]
#3306694
12/29/20 04:49 PM
12/29/20 04:49 PM
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Posts: 3,230 Semmes, AL
HippieKiller
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10 point
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,230
Semmes, AL
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You know the funny or not so funny thing I guess about all of this data is that above all else what they really need is “trending data”…….Which in essence means that they just hit the reset button when they started making the processors record the hunter’s number and sich…….Just like Matt said…..”The numbers are WAY different than they were last year”……..Participation has changed but it tells us nothing really about the deer until we create a new trend line…..correct? Which means that as long as they continue to tinker with participation and never let it remain a “constant” then we’ll still be hitting the reset until we get to some place where they are happy and then let it ride for a while. The only constant has been change.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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