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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3287651
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The deer are hammering my plots. I wish I would have put out isolation cages. I was going to hit them with some fertilizer, but since my season is pretty much over due to shoulder surgery, just going to let them do whatever they do and not spend any more money.

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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3288120
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I planted after Zeta. Had 2.5 weeks of no rain then a couple of good rains and now cold temps. My fields look terrible. Not to mention the kid at the seed store mixed in 2 tons of 17-17-17 in the buggy when I only paid for 1 ton and seed for 1 ton.

Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3298871
12/21/20 02:12 PM
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Mmmmm......(sniff, sniff)........I love the smell of a freshly mowed field. I wonder if the deer can smell it? wink


Isn't "green" manure supposed to rapidly decompose and act as sort of an instant feed fertilizer?......I noticed I'm nipping the tops out of some of the cereal rye and clover and making a "green/brown" combo of mulch that I'm putting the ground. I know its dang sure gonna make some rich soil. I'll snap some pics when I'm finished. Looking forward to seeing if this makes it jump after the next rain. Deer are probably about to start really hammering the plots after Christmas

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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3298914
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Pretty sure the thermostat is stuck on my tractor......,,,grrrr


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3298952
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A plot of rye that looks green... WHAT A JOKE. And it appears nothing is eating it.


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: Goatkiller] #3298967
12/21/20 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

A plot of rye that looks green... WHAT A JOKE. And it appears nothing is eating it.


I’m gonna shoot him standing in that lane on the left……There’s gonna be a bunch of does feeding in the field and he’s gonna slip up and follow them in too fer…… wink

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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3298972
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You'll be waiting there a while. That looks like garbage. The stuff will come up in the bed of my truck and look green.


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: Goatkiller] #3298974
12/21/20 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

You'll be waiting there a while. That looks like garbage. The stuff will come up in the bed of my truck and look green.


How do you like my dog fennel?


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3298993
12/21/20 05:03 PM
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Dang it Goatkiller…….I missed a spot. grin

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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3299009
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I picture is worth 1,000 words. Nothing is eating that.


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3299012
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CNC you might have to take a pic of 30 deer standing in the field. At that point, i dont care if theyre eating there or using it for a potty. As long as theyre there.

Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3299016
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Actually they barely even let me get the tractor cut off good before they started coming out this evening…..Phone pic isn’t so great but these are some of the does that I was referring to that would be standing in the plot when I shoot him…..There are more does on the way now. I’m ringing the dinner bell. There’s no telling how far that fresh mowed smell travels down that bottom behind the field at night…..

You know what I like the most about the dog fennel…….It allows me to carve out a design into the understory that I can use strategically to my advantage.

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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: Goatkiller] #3299282
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
I picture is worth 1,000 words. Nothing is eating that.

I would have shitty looking plots like that if It would get the deer he has using his at my house and lease.


Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: Turkey_neck] #3302660
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
Originally Posted by Goatkiller
I picture is worth 1,000 words. Nothing is eating that.

I would have shitty looking plots like that if It would get the deer he has using his at my house and lease.


I think this may be my big doe that had triplets last year.......I'm pretty sure every deer in the pic is her descendants.....She's the deer in the back left of the pic. Just something to think about the next time anyone shoots a doe for meat but yet wants to see more deer.....You would impact the population much less by shooting that button head in the group instead of that big old doe throwing off triplets.....but someone would stroke out if you killed their future booner.

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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3302811
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I like to shoot the big ole does myself. I prefer to shoot the ones without fawns though. I figure they are either barren or bad mothers. I’d rather the ones that do great survive


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: Turkey_neck] #3302970
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Originally Posted by Turkey_neck
I like to shoot the big ole does myself. I prefer to shoot the ones without fawns though. I figure they are either barren or bad mothers. I’d rather the ones that do great survive

The hard part is often deciding, throughout the season, which are barren are producers. In my area, the old does are as cagey as the bucks(at least) and rarely seen in daylight. Sometimes they'll mix in with 4-6 other adults and their fawns but not often. If they are with a group you are going to educate all the others when you shoot.

Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3303074
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I'm not sure what exactly happens but I think shooting the old does throws the social structure amongst doe groups into flux. I think leaving them would create a more "orderly" distribution of doe groups that remains fairly constant and predictable.......Taking them out causes new competition to arise......Now the pros and cons of creating this disruption is what I'm not sure about.....


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3303124
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Ive got some old nannies. We quit killing does several years ago and just feed alot more. Talked some closeby neighbors into sparing the does and eating young bucks. It has made a difference. I probably have pictures of 20 1yr old bucks. No way it could hurt anything to kill a couple of them. Them big does will be three deer next year, 7-8 deer year after next, 15+ that next year. I understand some people think they have too many. And i understand the best remedy for that is killing a few does. We had the opposite problem. It has taken us 5yrs i guess to get it where deer hunting is a pleasure around here. I had 18 in the field at dark yesterday. I expect there to be a few days of 20+. We see more bucks than we ever have. Not like they show it on tv by a long shot but its alot better than it used to be. Thats because of two things 1)dont kill does 2)plant as much and put out as much feed as we can afford to.

Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: BradB] #3303148
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Sounds great JWalker - sounds like Ton of fun - use to hunt place where we saw 6-30 a hunt but not many bucks

My Clarke county spot - I May see 1- 5 but one of them has good chance to be buck and 2-3 deer sighting is more common and occasional get blanked - don’t shoot does here - only shoot 4 Year and up - I Hav taken 1 buck here each of last 2 seasons and only had it 2 seasons

Had my Wilcox county spot this year only - May see 8-15 mostly does - Ton of does - I hav taken 2 shooters here this year and I am tagged out - but there so many does - May go back and take a couple w my bow - I like not shooting does - but here I may take few


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Re: Looking like a great plot year [Re: jwalker77] #3303298
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Ive got some old nannies. We quit killing does several years ago and just feed alot more. Talked some closeby neighbors into sparing the does and eating young bucks. It has made a difference. I probably have pictures of 20 1yr old bucks. No way it could hurt anything to kill a couple of them. Them big does will be three deer next year, 7-8 deer year after next, 15+ that next year. I understand some people think they have too many. And i understand the best remedy for that is killing a few does. We had the opposite problem. It has taken us 5yrs i guess to get it where deer hunting is a pleasure around here. I had 18 in the field at dark yesterday. I expect there to be a few days of 20+. We see more bucks than we ever have. Not like they show it on tv by a long shot but its alot better than it used to be. Thats because of two things 1)dont kill does 2)plant as much and put out as much feed as we can afford to.


Same exact approach we have taken. It works.


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