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Re: Dougie still campaigning........ [Re: 2Dogs] #3268414
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Geno, I’ll agree you seem to have no knowledge and not really strong on reading comprehension. Those old men had nothing to do with that bombing period. The whole thing was a shucks show and everyone ate the whole KKK cake no questions asked, just like you are now.

Anytime you see the USA or the DA in a courtroom instead of an assistant prosecutor, just know it ain’t about justice, especially if Doug Jones is involved

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Idk any of the real details, but the guy campaigned on prosecuting the kkk like he single handedly took the whole organization down. It was actually the guy at SPLC that did it.

I personally don’t like jones just because he reminds me a of a squirrel deciding on whether or not to cross the road every time I see him on TV. I’m simple minded.

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No. I have never known anyone who would be associated with them. You're actually saying they might have done some good? Please - tell me how. I'm all ears


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Re: Dougie still campaigning........ [Re: hoggin] #3268418
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Originally Posted by hoggin
Geno, I’ll agree you seem to have no knowledge and not really strong on reading comprehension. Those old men had nothing to do with that bombing period. The whole thing was a shucks show and everyone ate the whole KKK cake no questions asked, just like you are now.

Anytime you see the USA or the DA in a courtroom instead of an assistant prosecutor, just know it ain’t about justice, especially if Doug Jones is involved


What part of reading did I misunderstand? I am honestly looking for real help here. Let's just take Doug Jones completely out of the equation and figure out together how the dudes in white hoods were good guys.

I have a problem with that part.


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Re: Dougie still campaigning........ [Re: 2Dogs] #3268423
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Nobody said they were good guys. Nobody said the clan was good

Most reasonable people assume the clan is bad. That’s why he touted his prosecution of them. I think Jones prosecuted old men to elevate his political position, and his campaign capitalized on that idea. So no, we don’t need to take Jones out of it.

What defense attorney wants to be known as the defender of the kkk? Oh, and for free.

Then, I would like you to convince us that the men were guilty of the crimes they were accused of.

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Re: Dougie still campaigning........ [Re: 2Dogs] #3268426
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If a group of men show up at a drunk wife beaters house one night and persuade that man to give up drinking and quit beating his wife. I bet you dollars to donuts the wife would say that group of men were good guys. That don't get talked about though. It's all about killing little colored children. There's mean people in any group of people. That does not make everyone in the group mean or evil, nor does it make the whole group an evil group. Again, I have no opinion on the matter. Just making statements we should understand watching the actions of the news media every day.

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I’m no KKK supporter but I’ll give you a few examples

I grew up in an area where blacks weren’t local residents. Klan was there, they had charity fundraising alongside Shriners back in the day. I knew of a couple occasions where men liked to drink and chase strange women instead of take care of their family, men from the local chapter might come visit and explain the finer points of being a husband and father, you know, being responsible in a life changing way.

In many areas or chapters evil men committed atrocities that never should have happened, no person should ever be judged by anything other than character. No person should be tortured or killed based on skin color or who they chose to sleep with but a group of men with strong morals and willingness to hold others accountable ain’t a bad idea, until it’s misused and it always gets misused eventually.
In my opinion the klan started as a hate group and even though some instances of klan activities weren’t race related, or even bad the good a few may have done will never overcome the atrocities some committed

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I have no knowledge whatsoever of their guilt or innocence other than the court proceedings in which they were found guilty. I'm not sticking up for Doug in any way here - just tryine to sort out why people would be against his work to bring down the KKK,


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Re: Dougie still campaigning........ [Re: Geno] #3268430
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Originally Posted by Geno
I have no knowledge whatsoever of their guilt or innocence other than the court proceedings in which they were found guilty. I'm not sticking up for Doug in any way here - just tryine to sort out why people would be against his work to bring down the KKK,


He didn’t bring down the kkk, they were brought down a decade or two earlier.

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My father represented Blanton long before he was charged with the bombing. Doug wanted them to plead guilty to a federal explosive charge and if so, he would be able to tell everyone he was responsible for bringing them to justice. My dad recommended Blanton take the deal and serve very minor time. He told my dad no way he would plead to a case where the statute of limitations had run decades before and that there was no way a jury would convict him. When he was charged with the murder, my dad withdrew from representing him.

By the way, he was guilty of the bombing. He bragged about it for years and told my father that he did it and laughed when he said he was going to get away with it.

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I think it was more about dud jones going up rather than the klan going down

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Originally Posted by doekiller
My father represented Blanton long before he was charged with the bombing. Doug wanted them to plead guilty to a federal explosive charge and if so, he would be able to tell everyone he was responsible for bringing them to justice. My dad recommended Blanton take the deal and serve very minor time. He told my dad no way he would plead to a case where the statute of limitations had run decades before and that there was no way a jury would convict him. When he was charged with the murder, my dad withdrew from representing him.

By the way, he was guilty of the bombing. He bragged about it for years and told my father that he did it and laughed when he said he was going to get away with it.


Thank you. Props to your pop. I miss him.


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Re: Dougie still campaigning........ [Re: 2Dogs] #3268437
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I think Blanton and Cherry were just straight railroaded. Cash and Chambliss I don’t believe we’re innocent at all. Chambliss was convicted in the late 70’s early 80’s of participation and Cash never was tried having died before dougs circus days.


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Cherry was one mean old prick. But, I don’t think he was involved at all.

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Originally Posted by doekiller


Your an idiot. Every person no matter who they are or what they are accused of is entitled to the best defense they can afford. It is a constitutional guarantee.


Character matters. Make of that what you will. 98% of legal counsel makes the decent ones look really bad. Defense counsel are generally the worst of the bunch.


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Re: Dougie still campaigning........ [Re: hoggin] #3268442
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Originally Posted by hoggin
Originally Posted by Geno
He actually did some good going against the KKK as a US attorney.


Thats completely not true, that whole trial was a sham and a publicity stunt.

Exactly. Doug got his face on the news every night which was the primary goal of that trial.


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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
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He actually did some good going against the KKK as a US attorney.


Thats completely not true, that whole trial was a sham and a publicity stunt.

Exactly. Doug got his face on the news every night which was the primary goal of that trial.


So you are also ok with the kkk?


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I’ve heard several folks say Blanton just wanted folks to think he was involved, I knew a guy that told a story of him being a bragger that started believing his own lies at some point. I never knew him just several people who did

I will say that the guy who called him a bragger believing his own lies was over heard ( by people I very much believe and who were very shocked to discover how little they knew about their father) asking God for forgiveness for his indirect part in the act
On his death bed and that he was a police officer in a nearby city back when it happened.

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I can't fathom a place/time or a situation where bragging about being associated with KKK could be considered bragging. Am I just daft?


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Originally Posted by Geno
I can't fathom a place/time or a situation where bragging about being associated with KKK could be considered bragging. Am I just daft?


Hugo Black, the SC Justice the federal building is named after, was a “member” of the klan.

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