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Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Beer Belly] #3227894
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Medicaid will pay $4000 a month?

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Yes, echoing others - estate planning lawyer who specializes in elder law and planning.

In Montgomery that would be Koutoc & Vogel.


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Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Beer Belly] #3228104
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My dad said he has an extended care plan that pays for nursing home?

Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: WmHunter] #3228113
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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
Get an attorney that specializes in that area.


Originally Posted by WmHunter
Yes, echoing others - estate planning lawyer who specializes in elder law and planning.

In Montgomery that would be Koutoc & Vogel.



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Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Beer Belly] #3228126
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly
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My parents, like many on here are increasing in age. Rich has never been something that we have been mistaken for, but my parents lived well within their means and have managed to save some $, have some property, and don't want it to be pissed away.

My mom called me today and asked me to look into what they should do. My mom knows that a nursing home will take every dime that they have ever saved in matter of a few months.

If you have sound advice, great, but I was more looking into who would be best to talk with regarding their situation.



I saw this post title and didn't want to read it. But now I've read the OP. My response:

My 90 year old MIL has dementia and can't take care of herself. She's poor. Her 3 living kids in WV are poor also (in other ways, and basically didn't help her much). We brought her down to AL and take care of her. She's doin fine. It takes effort though by us. What pisses me off is that we raised 3 kids. We made them our priority through some lean years, so we did without. Once we get our head above water, we raise a grandson...........then we get Nathan our 2nd grandson.........then we get a MIL............and life is passing us by. Sure would be nice to have "our time" (husband and wife). Rant over.

So I guess my response is.......take care of them. They took care of you. Now I will read the responses.


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Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: BowtechDan] #3228142
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Originally Posted by BowtechDan
Originally Posted by Beer Belly
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My parents, like many on here are increasing in age. Rich has never been something that we have been mistaken for, but my parents lived well within their means and have managed to save some $, have some property, and don't want it to be pissed away.

My mom called me today and asked me to look into what they should do. My mom knows that a nursing home will take every dime that they have ever saved in matter of a few months.

If you have sound advice, great, but I was more looking into who would be best to talk with regarding their situation.



I saw this post title and didn't want to read it. But now I've read the OP. My response:

My 90 year old MIL has dementia and can't take care of herself. She's poor. Her 3 living kids in WV are poor also (in other ways, and basically didn't help her much). We brought her down to AL and take care of her. She's doin fine. It takes effort though by us. What pisses me off is that we raised 3 kids. We made them our priority through some lean years, so we did without. Once we get our head above water, we raise a grandson...........then we get Nathan our 2nd grandson.........then we get a MIL............and life is passing us by. Sure would be nice to have "our time" (husband and wife). Rant over.

So I guess my response is.......take care of them. They took care of you. Now I will read the responses.Brother, with the exception of the MIL- your life is a near carbon copy of mine. I'll just say I feel what you feel & will leave it at that.

Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: woodsnwater] #3228148
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Originally Posted by woodsnwater
If you have given all your property and money to your children and your in a nursing home who pays the bills?



All of us tax payers pay for it.....

Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Beer Belly] #3228157
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Nursing home can go back as much as 5 years on property transfers.

We have about 19 months left for free and clear with my mom.

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A Florida Lady Bird deed is worth exploring...

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Originally Posted by Atoler
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If you have given all your property and money to your children and your in a nursing home who pays the bills?



All of us tax payers pay for it.....


A better way to look at it is that the person receiving care is getting back why they paid into the system their entire working life.

Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Orion34] #3228226
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Originally Posted by Orion34
A Florida Lady Bird deed is worth exploring...


That the same thing as deeding the property but retaining a life estate?



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Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Beer Belly] #3228363
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Sometimes waiting and getting something by will is better because of the basis you receive at the time of their death. It’s sort of a gamble either way, but each case will vary. I don’t want anything in my name until my father passes away. We’ll get a stepped up basis and in case of divorce, it’s not in my name. I love my wife, but I’m just playing the best odds I can.


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Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Orion34
A Florida Lady Bird deed is worth exploring...


That the same thing as deeding the property but retaining a life estate?


Pure property protection strategy. Original owner retains continued use and control of property until death at which time it passes to grantee, typically a family member. Advantage is that the property cannot be taken as part of assets used by long term health care facility to cover costs.

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Find you a GOOD Elder Attorney. The sooner the better.


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Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Orion34] #3228501
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Originally Posted by Orion34
Originally Posted by 2Dogs
Originally Posted by Orion34
A Florida Lady Bird deed is worth exploring...


That the same thing as deeding the property but retaining a life estate?


Pure property protection strategy. Original owner retains continued use and control of property until death at which time it passes to grantee, typically a family member. Advantage is that the property cannot be taken as part of assets used by long term health care facility to cover costs.

Never heard it called a Lady Bird deed.



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Re: Aging parents & finances [Re: Beer Belly] #3232258
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Just wen thru this with my Dad and I would suggest a good elder law attorney who knows how to deal with Medicaid. Alabama has a 5 year look back on finances and everything has to be out of their name except the house for them to qualify for Medicaid. Florida is a lot more laid back and we could've kept more had we put him in a Florida nursing home but we didn't want to have to travel to see him. Good luck!


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