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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/22/20 03:18 PM
09/22/20 03:18 PM
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WmHunter
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Need a cite to the full reg. Does it actually purport to authorize such an extreme penalty?
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/22/20 03:33 PM
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Broadhead26
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Need a cite to the full reg. Does it actually purport to authorize such an extreme penalty? Sounds like the judge openly admits to doing it for those who don’t do gamecheck. Judges and game enforcement have a lot of leeway in seizing your stuff. A chance to get it back is going to cost $$$
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/22/20 04:46 PM
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Rocket62
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Note to self: Next time I poach a trophy deer, be sure to fill out the paperwork and radio it in before I stow the whole body in my jonny and paddle across the river
I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/22/20 05:15 PM
09/22/20 05:15 PM
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Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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Screw game check. Come get my deer head..... If you can.
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
[Re: Tigger85]
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09/22/20 10:39 PM
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Clem
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Only $50 and court costs for failing to check a deer? What a joke. As usual, no teeth to the penalty. ADEM must've set the fines. Need a cite to the full reg. Does it actually purport to authorize such an extreme penalty? Sounds like the judge openly admits to doing it for those who don’t do gamecheck. Judges and game enforcement have a lot of leeway in seizing your stuff. A chance to get it back is going to cost $$$ From the story: Kellenberger eventually charged Anderson with failure to report the buck on Game Check. Jackson County District Court records show that on Aug. 12, Earl Ray Anderson pled guilty to failure to report. He paid the maximum fine of $50, plus $50 in court costs. Judge Don Word ordered the rack confiscated. It is now in possession of WFF. “Because the fines and court costs are so low, Judge Don Word is declaring the racks of people who fail to report contraband because there is no confirmation number,” Kellenberger said. “He does that on all cases, not just Mr. Anderson’s.” Big question was why kill a sure enough trophy buck and ruin your mount? Don't think he could produce rest of deer either. Not everyone mounts their bucks. Their deer, their choice, their money.
Last edited by Clem; 09/22/20 10:41 PM.
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/22/20 11:37 PM
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Sounds about right Chucky has to know how many dead deer there are cause he damn sure does not know how many live ones there are!! And other than only one person he has no clue if there is 99.999% compliance to the guvment mandate or if it's 10% compliance, so he has a good thing going there!!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/23/20 07:40 AM
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Y’all just do as King Chuck says and it’ll all be fine
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
[Re: Clem]
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09/23/20 04:19 PM
09/23/20 04:19 PM
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WmHunter
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Only $50 and court costs for failing to check a deer? What a joke. As usual, no teeth to the penalty. ADEM must've set the fines. Need a cite to the full reg. Does it actually purport to authorize such an extreme penalty? Sounds like the judge openly admits to doing it for those who don’t do gamecheck. Judges and game enforcement have a lot of leeway in seizing your stuff. A chance to get it back is going to cost $$$ From the story: Kellenberger eventually charged Anderson with failure to report the buck on Game Check. Jackson County District Court records show that on Aug. 12, Earl Ray Anderson pled guilty to failure to report. He paid the maximum fine of $50, plus $50 in court costs. Judge Don Word ordered the rack confiscated. It is now in possession of WFF. “Because the fines and court costs are so low, Judge Don Word is declaring the racks of people who fail to report contraband because there is no confirmation number,” Kellenberger said. “He does that on all cases, not just Mr. Anderson’s.” The question is whether the regulation or some other part of the DCNR regs or statutes authorizing the DCNR or the court to confiscate someone's deer for not registering with Game Check - in addition to the $50 fine. So far I have not found such authorization anywhere. Here are some basics I found: 1. DCNR Facebook site says failure to Game Check is a $50 fine - but says nothing of property/game confiscation. https://m.facebook.com/notes/alabam.../game-check-information/629564277088814/2. Here is the actual game check regulation, and it does not say what the penalty is for failing to register: https://casetext.com/regulation/ala...harvest-record-and-reporting-requirement3. Here is the fine schedule for game and fishing law/reg violations, it has $50 listed for harvest record violations: https://judicial.alabama.gov/docs/library/rules/JA20_appxB.pdf******* I don't see anywhere in the above that authorizes a judge to order confiscation of a deer for a harvest record or game check violation. I know that there must be such an authorization for illegally poached deer as with night hunting or hunting illegally on someone else's land without permission, so maybe the judge was going by that? Don't know. But confiscating someone's deer for a Game Check ( or harvest record) violation is extreme, and there must be specific authority for the DCNR or judge to do that. Maybe the authority is in some other catch all part of the DCNR statutes or regulations. Perhaps Troy and Doekiller can help shed further light on this question.
Last edited by WmHunter; 09/23/20 04:25 PM.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/23/20 06:21 PM
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Judges look at it as it doesn't say I can't.
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Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/23/20 06:56 PM
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Was this the guy who was posted on here in his tighty whiteys and dirty socks holding the head up in his living room?
Last edited by AC870; 09/23/20 06:56 PM.
“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”
On the distance I like to walk to my stands: “The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
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Re: I been tellin' y'all you better Chucky Check
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09/23/20 07:55 PM
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jbatey1
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Was this the guy who was posted on here in his tighty whiteys and dirty socks holding the head up in his living room?
Yes
The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
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