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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Pounds and units are not the same thing. . It’s what I’m trying to tell you. So if the results from AU say add 100 N per acre how many 50 lb bags of 33-0-0 do you need to attain that 100lbs.
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Right at 6 of 33-0-0. Would give you 99 units of N. That’s 300 lbs per acre
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Let me warn you too. AU soil lab and recs are WAY outdated. Use A&L or waters Ag lab if you want current up to date legit procedures and Recs.
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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It’s best to always refer to your needs in units instead of lbs
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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And was saying you only need half that the whole time. That’s way too much for a plot.
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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The N recommendations aren't based off of any test done on your soil......it's just generic amounts based off of a predicticed yield. How much you need to "yield" may vary from plot to plot due to variaes like the size of the field, deer density, browsi g pressure, etc....Use your eyes and tailor your needs to each situation. Small it's that get hit hard will need to maximize your she larger fix in low density areas may get by using very lite N....
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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If you have sandy soil then you'll do better to break it up into small, frequent applications depending on what's feasible for you to do.....something like 50-100 lbs of 33-0-0 every 4-6 weeks
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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we've used the Auburn soil testing lab for years. our results from the AU lab were recently all over the map from comparable samples taken over the last 5 years. for fun this summer is sent the same 10 field soil samples to AU and LSU soil testing labs.... the LSU recommendations were much more consistent w fertilizer recommendations as compared to the actual K/P levels in each field. the field PH levels were consistent from both labs- with the AU PH levels ALWAYS lower.. now out of 10 fields- both AU and LSU had the identical top (or bottom) 3 fields that need K/potassium or P/phosphorous etc. but the AU numbers were just not consistent.. w/ respect to the actual lbs of recommended fert. i think AU needs to re-calibrate their equipment. my 2 cents.
note: from both labs it was consistently clear that our sandy soils are always higher in P but lower in K. soils with more clay are higher in K but lower in P.
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Your waisting your money fertilizing, until you get your ph up. In the 4's, literally, you wont get any benefit. I would spend my money liming and planting cereal rye and crimson clover, this year. We will lime and plant like usual.
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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I try to put a ton a year. It’s just sound maintenance on no till ground
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Hmmmm.....a paradigm shift
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Not throw and mow. I do no till tho with a drill. That’s placing seed in the soil. In moisture
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Money well spent. Don’t know how many acres that’s for but our ph was low last summer, put 3 tons per acre out and spring samples this spring showed everything up at least a full point to 6.5-6.7 on all tests. We will plan on putting out a ton per acre going forward to maintain unless tests show it getting to high which I don’t think is going to happen in our soil. Was about 4.5 to 5 acres. Soil sample called for 1.5 tons an acre to make a truck load work out we spread it at a rate of 1.75 tons per acre. It worked out perfect had probably less than 200 pounds left after last field.
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Re: Soil sample results ?
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Money well spent. Don’t know how many acres that’s for but our ph was low last summer, put 3 tons per acre out and spring samples this spring showed everything up at least a full point to 6.5-6.7 on all tests. We will plan on putting out a ton per acre going forward to maintain unless tests show it getting to high which I don’t think is going to happen in our soil. 3 tons per acre that is twice what ours called for and the PH on ours was terribly low. I guess maybe your soil was more loam or clay than ours which as I understand it takes more lime than a sandy soil.
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