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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: eclipse829]
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07/21/20 01:45 PM
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metalmuncher
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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If masks work as good as we are being told, at defeating the spread of the virus, then there is no reason to keep anything closed down and we should just all wear masks and go back to 100% normal full time activities. If we cannot wear masks and go back to 100% normal, then that right there is proof that they do not work and we can stop all this BS about needing to wear them to stop the spread. The fact is, they either work like we are being told they do or they do not work, which one is it???????? You know it must be real tough trying to keep everyone scared to death of the virus and the economy shut down at the same time. Picking wearing the masks, to stop the spread, as lynch pin on all this is a big mistake by the libs if you look at it logically. Cant be both. It either works or it doesnt, there's no grey area. They just need to decide. Full open economy or nobody acting like sheeple and wearing masks. Either is fine for me. How would we know if mask work? There's a percentage of the population that's looking for every excuse not to wear one. We'll never have a true measure of effectiveness. That's ok. It will match up with the accuracy of the death toll #s.
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: metalmuncher]
#3172870
07/21/20 01:48 PM
07/21/20 01:48 PM
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abolt300
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Hey, Metalmuncher, did you see the good news on Fox this morning. CDC came out with new guidance today and said no need to take retest to prove negative before coming out of isolation, cause that is just the waste of a valuable test, just quarantine for 10 days after you first show symptoms or 24 hrs after you have not had a fever without meds. You know, it's almost like they need it to continue to spread. Old guidance was 14 days after no fever unmedicated and symptoms subside. You should be able to get back to work sooner under these new rules. Article is currently posted on Fox. I'm honestly just sick of all the changing information which I honestly feel is being intentionally spread to muddy the waters. It came a little late to be of any help to me. I went back to work Friday. But that's after I waited 3 days for my results. Son ended up having 5 retests over 3 weeks before he finally pulled a negative last Friday. Glad you're over it and back to work 
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: Southwood7]
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07/21/20 01:48 PM
07/21/20 01:48 PM
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Northport
Thisldu
8 point
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Northport
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Don't stop me from living to keep me alive. Risk is inherent to life.
"The future's uncertain and the end is always near"
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: Skinny]
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07/21/20 01:52 PM
07/21/20 01:52 PM
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Posts: 20,187
Northport, AL
GomerPyle
Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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Local drunk guy here told me that the mask makes it easier to be drunk in public. That actually made sense. You know...I went to the ABC store the other day and they had a sign on the door stating "If you appear to be under the age of 30, please have your ID ready", but they also had a sign up requiring masks. I begrudgingly wore my mask. I also had a baseball cap and sunglasses on and didn't bother to remove either. They never checked my ID or anything. I could have been 15yrs old and they'd have never known the difference. Kids these days could be having a field day with this mask deal.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: Southwood7]
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07/21/20 02:34 PM
07/21/20 02:34 PM
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Posts: 4,673
Madison, AL
wmd
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Madison, AL
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Just wondering ... all you guys saying it is illegal what are you basing your belief on?
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" -
D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: wmd]
#3172904
07/21/20 02:41 PM
07/21/20 02:41 PM
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Jasper, AL
joshm28
14 point
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14 point
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Jasper, AL
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Just wondering ... all you guys saying it is illegal what are you basing your belief on? Look through the books and let me know which law I’m breaking by not wearing a mask? I’ll wait.....
Last edited by joshm28; 07/21/20 02:42 PM.
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: Lockjaw]
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07/21/20 02:51 PM
07/21/20 02:51 PM
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Posts: 4,275
Jasper Al
eclipse829
10 point
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10 point
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Actually Southern Research Institute in Birmingham has a paper they published about the effectiveness of masks. An N95 is about 90% effective, a surgical mask is about 33%, a bandana is around 11, and a dust mask is 6. Of note, the paper went on to conclude the use of masks gives people a false sense of security.
I actually had a guy tell me he wears a mask for my protection. He didn't like it when I informed him my protection was my responsibility, not his!!
Thank you would have sufficed.
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: wmd]
#3172916
07/21/20 02:58 PM
07/21/20 02:58 PM
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Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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Clanton, AL
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Just wondering ... all you guys saying it is illegal what are you basing your belief on? 13A-11-9 state of Alabama law says its illegal to wear a face mask in public places. The governor has no authority to change a law, or order anyone to break the law.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: GomerPyle]
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07/21/20 03:03 PM
07/21/20 03:03 PM
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Posts: 8,151
In front of my lathe
gundoc
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Local drunk guy here told me that the mask makes it easier to be drunk in public. That actually made sense. You know...I went to the ABC store the other day and they had a sign on the door stating "If you appear to be under the age of 30, please have your ID ready", but they also had a sign up requiring masks. I begrudgingly wore my mask. I also had a baseball cap and sunglasses on and didn't bother to remove either. They never checked my ID or anything. I could have been 15yrs old and they'd have never known the difference. Kids these days could be having a field day with this mask deal. I have one of those sun shields you wear while outside with a skull printed on it. If I feel like wearing a mask, I wear that more for shock value than anything else. I had it on with a ball cap and sunglasses when I went into Publix. I bought a 12 pack and the cashier never asked for any form of ID
There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!
~ unknown
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: eclipse829]
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07/21/20 03:15 PM
07/21/20 03:15 PM
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Clarksville, TN /Greenville, ...
bill
Freak of Nature
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Actually Southern Research Institute in Birmingham has a paper they published about the effectiveness of masks. An N95 is about 90% effective, a surgical mask is about 33%, a bandana is around 11, and a dust mask is 6. Of note, the paper went on to conclude the use of masks gives people a false sense of security.
I actually had a guy tell me he wears a mask for my protection. He didn't like it when I informed him my protection was my responsibility, not his!!
Thank you would have sufficed. I'm not thanking anyone for acting irrationally and putting faith in constantly changing government mandates. I'm not thanking anyone for trying to sell me "the new normal" or for promoting the idea that they know what's better for me than I do. I won't say a word to anyone who chooses to wear a mask and if they are really concerned with their health they'll extend me the same courtesy when they see me without one.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles"
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: mike35549]
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07/21/20 03:19 PM
07/21/20 03:19 PM
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Posts: 3,841
Jasper
buckhunter2
10 point
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If you need to mail a package where I live anyway you have to wear one. But you don’t have to wear one to the best Mexican restaurant in the County.
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3172932
07/21/20 03:20 PM
07/21/20 03:20 PM
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Posts: 102
Greene County
Canez
3 point
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Posts: 102
Greene County
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Actually Southern Research Institute in Birmingham has a paper they published about the effectiveness of masks. An N95 is about 90% effective, a surgical mask is about 33%, a bandana is around 11, and a dust mask is 6. Of note, the paper went on to conclude the use of masks gives people a false sense of security.
I actually had a guy tell me he wears a mask for my protection. He didn't like it when I informed him my protection was my responsibility, not his!!
That paper was published in 2010 and is hardly relevant to the argument here. They sprayed aerosols directly onto the mask to see what collected on the mannequin. The argument for masks is for everyone to wear them so they will collect and significantly reduce the spread of aerosols from an infected person. People could be asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic spreading the virus. Why not play it safe and nip this in the bud? We are the only advanced country in the world still significantly struggling with this virus. I don't see why so many are refusing to try and help resolve the issue. This is not a world wide sponsored hoax targeted on removing our president from power. People keep saying if masks work why do we not just open up the country and have everyone wear them? People will still refuse to wear them and make up bogus health reasons and other arguments why they cant wear a simple mask inside a store for 10 minutes. If we could somehow make this a reality that would be great but anytime there is a stricter mandate all the people complaining about snowflakes happen to turn into the biggest snowflakes.
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: Out back]
#3172938
07/21/20 03:27 PM
07/21/20 03:27 PM
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Madison, AL
wmd
10 point
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10 point
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Madison, AL
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Just wondering ... all you guys saying it is illegal what are you basing your belief on? 13A-11-9 state of Alabama law says its illegal to wear a face mask in public places. The governor has no authority to change a law, or order anyone to break the law. I'm not a lawyer and I may have weak googling skills ... But, apparently during a declared state public health emergency Alabama Code "appears" to say otherwise. 31‐9‐13. Orders, rules, and regulations of Governor ‐‐ Effect; distribution. All orders, rules, and regulations promulgated by the Governor as authorized by this article shall have the full force and effect of law when a copy thereof is filed in the office of the Secretary of State. All existing laws, ordinances, rules, and regulations or parts thereof inconsistent with the provisions of this article or of any order, rule, or regulation issued under the authority of this article, shall be suspended during the period of time and to the extent that such inconsistency exists.
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" -
D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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Re: Will you wear one now?
[Re: joshm28]
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07/21/20 03:28 PM
07/21/20 03:28 PM
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Posts: 4,673
Madison, AL
wmd
10 point
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10 point
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Madison, AL
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Just wondering ... all you guys saying it is illegal what are you basing your belief on? Look through the books and let me know which law I’m breaking by not wearing a mask? I’ll wait..... Kind of what I figured. I didn't say it was legal or illegal. I was wearing one before the public health orders were issued because of the anecdotal evidence and the research results that I had read. Titles 22 and 31 of the Alabama Code appear to have some relevant information if you are interested in reading about the public health orders during a declared public health emergency.
"Any way you look at it, most of the problems facing baboons can be expressed in two words: other baboons" -
D.L. Cheney and R.M. Seyfarth
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