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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3148227
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I can clarify something.... that my pistol brace already burned up in a flood.

Been having a rash of floods these past 10 years.


No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: Goatkiller] #3148271
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller


I can clarify something.... that my pistol brace already burned up in a flood.

Been having a rash of floods these past 10 years.

Your's too?!?!


There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!

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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: Goatkiller] #3148335
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller


I can clarify something.... that my pistol brace already burned up in a flood.

Been having a rash of floods these past 10 years.


They have been caused by climate change.
laugh

Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: gundoc] #3148419
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Originally Posted by gundoc
Originally Posted by Goatkiller


I can clarify something.... that my pistol brace already burned up in a flood.

Been having a rash of floods these past 10 years.

Your's too?!?!


Mine too! That's been a helluva flood


"Cull" is just another four letter word...
Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3148515
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Just hunters in the United States alone based nationwide license sales makeup the world’s largest army by far...don’t forget it.

You have ALL of the power

Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3148518
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Yeah, but that power is worthless....The Corona circus has already proven folks ain't gonna stand up to the gubment
Then you got all the legislating from the bench coming out of the SCOTUS and folks just say "oh, well...I guess that's the way it is"


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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: gundoc] #3148779
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Originally Posted by gundoc
Originally Posted by Cynical
Originally Posted by gundoc
Originally Posted by BCLC
$5 says it’s the SBA3, too much like a standard collapsible stock in ease of adjustment. I’m just glad SOMEBODY is standing up for gun owner’s rights. Fingers crossed the ATF stays the course and doesn’t change the brace laws.


I agree
Being they use a standard mil-spec receiver extension, I've always questioned how they were legal.
I didn't think you could put a carbine/rifle receiver extension on a "pistol"


You gotta clarify this, because it reads probably like you don’t want it to (and we know you know a ton about the platform).

The ar direct impingement system has to have a buffer tube, even in pistol configuration. Then along came Sb tactical a few years back and stuck a formed piece of rubber onto the tube that’s always been there, and said it was designed to slip over your forearm to help stabilize the pistol when firing it like a pistol. And people said, hmmm, instead of putting that rubber over my forearm, I can butt it up against my shoulder and it’ll be kinda like a stock even though it wasn’t designed as a shoulder stock or for that purpose. Those pieces of rubber could be moved up and down the buffer tube to adjust length (remember there were ODIN Works locking rings used originally to keep the rubber Sb brace in place from sliding up the tube). The A3 brace is just an evolution that solves the problem of allowing adjustability of the brace for forearm length without having to use a locking ring.


What would you like me to clarify?



I assume you didn’t question the versions that didn’t use a mil-spec buffer tube? It doesn’t make sense to take your position in light of the model progression. I was thinking you would clarify your seemingly anti-pistol brace position because frankly I doubted you were anti. Guess I shouldn’t assume!

Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: gundoc] #3148934
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Originally Posted by gundoc
Yeah, but that power is worthless....The Corona circus has already proven folks ain't gonna stand up to the gubment
Then you got all the legislating from the bench coming out of the SCOTUS and folks just say "oh, well...I guess that's the way it is"


Yep.


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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: Cynical] #3149035
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[/quote]

I assume you didn’t question the versions that didn’t use a mil-spec buffer tube? It doesn’t make sense to take your position in light of the model progression. I was thinking you would clarify your seemingly anti-pistol brace position because frankly I doubted you were anti. Guess I shouldn’t assume![/quote]


You're right about one thing ... you shouldn't assume.
How the hell did you get that from me stating I simply wondered how they were legal?
Asking a question doesn't mean a person is "anti" whatever they are questioning...
No, I didn't question the "non mil spec" tubes...Why would I?


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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3149828
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I been telling people that its coming for years just SBR it and be done with it. I wouldn't invest money in any thing based on an ATF opinion they change their mind more than the weather and have for decades.

Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: gundoc] #3149874
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Originally Posted by gundoc
[/quote]

I assume you didn’t question the versions that didn’t use a mil-spec buffer tube? It doesn’t make sense to take your position in light of the model progression. I was thinking you would clarify your seemingly anti-pistol brace position because frankly I doubted you were anti. Guess I shouldn’t assume!



You're right about one thing ... you shouldn't assume.
How the hell did you get that from me stating I simply wondered how they were legal?
Asking a question doesn't mean a person is "anti" whatever they are questioning...
No, I didn't question the "non mil spec" tubes...Why would I?
[/quote]


Yeah, was thinking that, too....it looks like he got caught up in it having to have a buffer tube, instead of how the mfg/atf might actually categorizes the part used, which is what I thought you were trying to point out? Using a milspec, carbine extension on a pistol lower, vs using a PISTOL extension.

Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: ALMODUX] #3149937
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Originally Posted by ALMODUX
Originally Posted by gundoc


I assume you didn’t question the versions that didn’t use a mil-spec buffer tube? It doesn’t make sense to take your position in light of the model progression. I was thinking you would clarify your seemingly anti-pistol brace position because frankly I doubted you were anti. Guess I shouldn’t assume!



You're right about one thing ... you shouldn't assume.
How the hell did you get that from me stating I simply wondered how they were legal?
Asking a question doesn't mean a person is "anti" whatever they are questioning...
No, I didn't question the "non mil spec" tubes...Why would I?
[/quote]


Yeah, was thinking that, too....it looks like he got caught up in it having to have a buffer tube, instead of how the mfg/atf might actually categorizes the part used, which is what I thought you were trying to point out? Using a milspec, carbine extension on a pistol lower, vs using a PISTOL extension. [/quote]

Yeah, I guess I should have said PISTOL extension/tube vs. "non mil spec" since there is a commercial pattern tube available for rifles


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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3149940
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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3154464
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The day some bastard signs a piece of paper that says I’m a criminal for possession of this then I reckon I’ll just have to live with that guilt. Or....maybe I just don’t give a damn.

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Read a story last night that said quite a few congressmen have written letters to the acting director telling her the ATF needs to slow it's roll because the making of new laws doesn't fall into their purview


There are two types of gun enthusiasts ... Those who have been F#CKED by PTG and those who will be!

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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: gundoc] #3154608
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Originally Posted by gundoc
Read a story last night that said quite a few congressmen have written letters to the acting director telling her the ATF needs to slow it's roll because the making of new laws doesn't fall into their purview

The problem is the ATF has been emboldened by things like POTUS telling them to make bumpstocks illegal by "reclassifying them as machine guns"...it was a TERRIBLE precedent to set


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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: GomerPyle] #3154623
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by gundoc
Read a story last night that said quite a few congressmen have written letters to the acting director telling her the ATF needs to slow it's roll because the making of new laws doesn't fall into their purview

The problem is the ATF has been emboldened by things like POTUS telling them to make bumpstocks illegal by "reclassifying them as machine guns"...it was a TERRIBLE precedent to set
Yep


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Originally Posted by gman
Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by gundoc
Read a story last night that said quite a few congressmen have written letters to the acting director telling her the ATF needs to slow it's roll because the making of new laws doesn't fall into their purview

The problem is the ATF has been emboldened by things like POTUS telling them to make bumpstocks illegal by "reclassifying them as machine guns"...it was a TERRIBLE precedent to set
Yep

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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3155185
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Meh as y'all goobers say.i don't play with toys and prefer the full size version 😁 so bull crap braces don't scratch my itch. maybe ok as a truck gun.but yeah I don't believe the government has any right period in determining what kind of stock I have. even though sounds like y'all have learned to deal with it . it doesn't make it more lethal.i seen a younger guy at gun show walking around with a AR pistol and a old man about 70 that had a table set up asked him is that a real gun?I just laughed

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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3155379
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I will trade the SB3 for legalizing suppressors! My old ears are about shot out!!


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