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They're coming after braces... #3147044
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/General...s-Restricting-Arm-Brace-Usage/5-2339157/

Link is to another forum..

Rep. Gaetz held a press conference saying he is pushing back against the atf's plan to regulate braces...


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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3147068
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More of the ATF making it up as they go. Obama leftovers. Which particular arm brace is the ATF targeting? Unless I missed it in the article, it didn't say.


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The general consensus over on ar15 is sba3 from reading through the thread.

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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3147099
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It didn't say the specific one. It did say 700k in use.

I'd think either SBA3 or Shockwave


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Re: They're coming after braces... [Re: CKyleC] #3147102
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Also, I had not heard of this until today.... Is Gaetz actually providing cover for them?


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$5 says it’s the SBA3, too much like a standard collapsible stock in ease of adjustment. I’m just glad SOMEBODY is standing up for gun owner’s rights. Fingers crossed the ATF stays the course and doesn’t change the brace laws.


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I’d take it a step further and ask what makes a 12” barrel more dangerous than a 16”

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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
I’d take it a step further and ask what makes a 12” barrel more dangerous than a 16”

Absophuckinglutelynuffin.


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Just exactly how does the ATF or ANYBODY know where all these braces are? I don't take my stuff out in public (have my own range) and unless I have to confront/shoot somebody it will never be known what I have or don't have.


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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Just exactly how does the ATF or ANYBODY know where all these braces are? I don't take my stuff out in public (have my own range) and unless I have to confront/shoot somebody it will never be known what I have or don't have.

Because you talk about these things online.


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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Just exactly how does the ATF or ANYBODY know where all these braces are? I don't take my stuff out in public (have my own range) and unless I have to confront/shoot somebody it will never be known what I have or don't have.

Because you talk about these things online.





And taxes.

Inventory, Sales, Production, etc....

eta: Also Credit Card purchases

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I like the one dude that replied we should just take over a city and start making demands.....

Couple months ago.... I would have thought that was a stoopid comment.


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Originally Posted by BCLC
$5 says it’s the SBA3, too much like a standard collapsible stock in ease of adjustment. I’m just glad SOMEBODY is standing up for gun owner’s rights. Fingers crossed the ATF stays the course and doesn’t change the brace laws.


I agree
Being they use a standard mil-spec receiver extension, I've always questioned how they were legal.
I didn't think you could put a carbine/rifle receiver extension on a "pistol"


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So you can buy a SBA3, a 3" barrel and not have a SBR? I have never had a interest in a AR pistol just curious.


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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
I’d take it a step further and ask what makes a 12” barrel more dangerous than a 16”


nothing, except maybe to your hearing........................which is why SUPPRESSORS SHOULD BE DEREGULATED

seriously, you should be able to walk into Academy or Walmart and walk down an aisle in the hunting/fishing department and grab a suppressor off the rack in a plastic blister pack and walk to the register and pay and leave. It's asinine that there's anymore to it than that.

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I agree. The real stupid thing is... a SBR is illegal.


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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
I agree. The real stupid thing is... a SBR is illegal.



A 16" marlin lever action in 44mag is legal
A 6" revolver in 44mag is legal

a marlin lever action in 44mag with the barrel cut to 6" is illegal....RIDICULOUS


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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
I agree. The real stupid thing is... a SBR is illegal.



An UNREGISTERED SBR is illegal. And I hate the registration requirement as much as anybody.


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Originally Posted by gundoc
Originally Posted by BCLC
$5 says it’s the SBA3, too much like a standard collapsible stock in ease of adjustment. I’m just glad SOMEBODY is standing up for gun owner’s rights. Fingers crossed the ATF stays the course and doesn’t change the brace laws.


I agree
Being they use a standard mil-spec receiver extension, I've always questioned how they were legal.
I didn't think you could put a carbine/rifle receiver extension on a "pistol"


You gotta clarify this, because it reads probably like you don’t want it to (and we know you know a ton about the platform).

The ar direct impingement system has to have a buffer tube, even in pistol configuration. Then along came Sb tactical a few years back and stuck a formed piece of rubber onto the tube that’s always been there, and said it was designed to slip over your forearm to help stabilize the pistol when firing it like a pistol. And people said, hmmm, instead of putting that rubber over my forearm, I can butt it up against my shoulder and it’ll be kinda like a stock even though it wasn’t designed as a shoulder stock or for that purpose. Those pieces of rubber could be moved up and down the buffer tube to adjust length (remember there were ODIN Works locking rings used originally to keep the rubber Sb brace in place from sliding up the tube). The A3 brace is just an evolution that solves the problem of allowing adjustability of the brace for forearm length without having to use a locking ring.

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Originally Posted by Cynical
Originally Posted by gundoc
Originally Posted by BCLC
$5 says it’s the SBA3, too much like a standard collapsible stock in ease of adjustment. I’m just glad SOMEBODY is standing up for gun owner’s rights. Fingers crossed the ATF stays the course and doesn’t change the brace laws.


I agree
Being they use a standard mil-spec receiver extension, I've always questioned how they were legal.
I didn't think you could put a carbine/rifle receiver extension on a "pistol"


You gotta clarify this, because it reads probably like you don’t want it to (and we know you know a ton about the platform).

The ar direct impingement system has to have a buffer tube, even in pistol configuration. Then along came Sb tactical a few years back and stuck a formed piece of rubber onto the tube that’s always been there, and said it was designed to slip over your forearm to help stabilize the pistol when firing it like a pistol. And people said, hmmm, instead of putting that rubber over my forearm, I can butt it up against my shoulder and it’ll be kinda like a stock even though it wasn’t designed as a shoulder stock or for that purpose. Those pieces of rubber could be moved up and down the buffer tube to adjust length (remember there were ODIN Works locking rings used originally to keep the rubber Sb brace in place from sliding up the tube). The A3 brace is just an evolution that solves the problem of allowing adjustability of the brace for forearm length without having to use a locking ring.


What would you like me to clarify?



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