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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 04:13 PM
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WmHunter
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Someone invades your house shoot first ask questions later.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 04:28 PM
06/02/20 04:28 PM
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Read this very carefully, as it answers all these questions: https://codes.findlaw.com/al/title-13a-criminal-code/al-code-sect-13a-3-23.htmlAnd yes if there is no threat you can't just shoot someone for the hell of it.
Last edited by WmHunter; 06/02/20 04:28 PM.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 04:49 PM
06/02/20 04:49 PM
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SwampHunter
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Reading this....
(4) Using or about to use physical force against an owner, employee, or other person authorized to be on business property when the business is closed to the public while committing or attempting to commit a crime involving death, serious physical injury, robbery, kidnapping, rape, sodomy, or a crime of a sexual nature involving a child under the age of 12.
If you are in your business, after hours, and someone breaks in to commit a robbery, then you are authorized to shoot them. Do I read that correctly?
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: SwampHunter]
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06/02/20 05:47 PM
06/02/20 05:47 PM
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jb20
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Reading this....
(4) Using or about to use physical force against an owner, employee, or other person authorized to be on business property when the business is closed to the public while committing or attempting to commit a crime involving death, serious physical injury, robbery, kidnapping, rape, sodomy, or a crime of a sexual nature involving a child under the age of 12.
If you are in your business, after hours, and someone breaks in to commit a robbery, then you are authorized to shoot them. Do I read that correctly? Thats what i got from it
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 06:03 PM
06/02/20 06:03 PM
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jawbone
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: jawbone]
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06/02/20 06:22 PM
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. Thank you
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 06:24 PM
06/02/20 06:24 PM
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If you've already shot them then it's too late to ask.
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: jawbone]
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06/02/20 07:59 PM
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. But the circumstances CAN matter. If you chase someone down and then they turn and pull a gun on you, you're going to jail if you shoot them. Sire your life was in danger, but you created the situation and it would actually be your victim who had the right to claim the self defense. Not the pursuer.
-Keith
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 08:04 PM
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Anyone can get off on that law right now in bama.
Tell the judge you have been watching the news the past fees days and have seen multiple business owners defending their property and getting stomped to death by large crowds. I feared for my life and switched from semi to full, your honor.
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: modoc_333]
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06/02/20 08:07 PM
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. But the circumstances CAN matter. If you chase someone down and then they turn and pull a gun on you, you're going to jail if you shoot them. Sire your life was in danger, but you created the situation and it would actually be your victim who had the right to claim the self defense. Not the pursuer. Not so if you didn't intend to harm them and they initiated the deadly force.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Paddlejon]
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06/02/20 08:29 PM
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If someone is chasing me down and I perceive their pursuit as aggressive then I will feel justified in defending myself. Most here would agree they would draw and shoot someone aggressively chasing them. If i turn and defend myself, I'm justified. Castle law. I don't have to run if I'm in grave danger. Just because I pulled the gun first doesn't give him the right to kill me just because he is faster on the draw. If so, murder would be easy. Just chase your victim first.
It's just one example but my point is that its dangerous to say"it does not matter what the circumstances are"
-Keith
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: Dkhargroves]
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06/02/20 08:30 PM
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Anyone can get off on that law right now in bama.
Tell the judge you have been watching the news the past fees days and have seen multiple business owners defending their property and getting stomped to death by large crowds. I feared for my life and switched from semi to full, your honor. Which is true
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: jawbone]
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06/02/20 08:39 PM
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. YOU should not attempt to articulate anything. You’re attorney should handle that. The answer to any question prior to speaking to your attorney is “ I thought he/she/they were gonna kill me/them. It’s the lawyers job to sell/tell the story.
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Re: Alabama Castle Law
[Re: hoggin]
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06/02/20 08:42 PM
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Once again, it does not matter where you are or what the circumstances are, if someone makes you feel as if you or another person's safety is in jeopardy, and you fear for your life or the life of another person, the use of deadly force is justifiable. You had better be able to articulate or explain, why you felt your life or another's life was in jeopardy. In your house, in your driveway, at McDonalds, or in church. The law is the same.
Before the Castle law there was a provision that if you had the opportunity to retreat and did not then self-defense did not apply. Now you don't have to retreat but you still have to feel that you or another's life is in jeopardy.
That is it in a simple version. No need to complicate it. YOU should not attempt to articulate anything. You’re attorney should handle that. The answer to any question prior to speaking to your attorney is “ I thought he/she/they were gonna kill me/them. It’s the lawyers job to sell/tell the story. U are correct sir
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