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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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04/01/20 11:42 AM
04/01/20 11:42 AM
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i was starting to calm down till the president said they expected up to 240,000 american deaths even with mitigation. What are they basing this on? Watch yesterday's press conference; they very clearly and transparently explain their hypothesis. You can be sure; they did not look forward to delivering this sobering projection. Hoping for "only" 80-100k deaths on thew low side. Lets hope; we do the right things and the mitigation plan proves them wrong.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: wew3006]
#3086403
04/01/20 01:07 PM
04/01/20 01:07 PM
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bama1971
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i was starting to calm down till the president said they expected up to 240,000 american deaths even with mitigation. What are they basing this on? Watch yesterday's press conference; they very clearly and transparently explain their hypothesis. You can be sure; they did not look forward to delivering this sobering projection. Hoping for "only" 80-100k deaths on thew low side. Lets hope; we do the right things and the mitigation plan proves them wrong. some crazy stats U.S. mortality rate has surged to 2.16 percent (4,099 deaths out of 189,711 reported cases as of this morning). Last week, it was about 1.5 percent. The U.S. rate is still less than half of the global rate of 5 percent (44,214 deaths out of 885,301 reported cases), which itself is probably a gross understatement (unless you believe the rosy reports from China). Yesterday, it was 3.29 percent as deaths hit a record daily high of 912 (well over 300 more than on any previous day), as new cases swelled to 24,742. Source
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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04/01/20 01:29 PM
04/01/20 01:29 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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i was starting to calm down till the president said they expected up to 240,000 american deaths even with mitigation. What are they basing this on? Gotta be fake information, fake numbers, something the Democrats in the Deep State are foisting on Trump and his team to send out to the masses as they plan the purge before upending the country to take it over. Right? That's what we keep hearing. "Just the flu, no big deal, fake and nothing to get upset about." So those 240K numbers are just bullchit fake news for the sheeple. Gotta be. Can't be real. We need to be more strong, free and independently wise thinkers like Belarus and play hockey. When are the masses going to march in the streets?
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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04/01/20 01:42 PM
04/01/20 01:42 PM
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bill
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i was starting to calm down till the president said they expected up to 240,000 american deaths even with mitigation. What are they basing this on? Who knows? It's the 3rd different number that Fauchi has come up with and they never give an explanation for how they are arriving at that number. Even the ones with crazy 2 million plus death rates publish their studies. Just remember, medical related errors are the 3rd leading cause of death in this country. They save a lot of lives but they outright kill some people, too. More than the number they claim will die from this virus. People aren't scared of doctors, though. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bama1971]
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04/01/20 04:29 PM
04/01/20 04:29 PM
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outdoorobsession
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i was starting to calm down till the president said they expected up to 240,000 american deaths even with mitigation. What are they basing this on? Watch yesterday's press conference; they very clearly and transparently explain their hypothesis. You can be sure; they did not look forward to delivering this sobering projection. Hoping for "only" 80-100k deaths on thew low side. Lets hope; we do the right things and the mitigation plan proves them wrong. some crazy stats U.S. mortality rate has surged to 2.16 percent (4,099 deaths out of 189,711 reported cases as of this morning). Last week, it was about 1.5 percent. The U.S. rate is still less than half of the global rate of 5 percent (44,214 deaths out of 885,301 reported cases), which itself is probably a gross understatement (unless you believe the rosy reports from China). Yesterday, it was 3.29 percent as deaths hit a record daily high of 912 (well over 300 more than on any previous day), as new cases swelled to 24,742. Source And the sad part is the hospitals are not even overwhelmed yet. That is when the mortality rate skyrockets. These are the first cases...it is going to get much worse I believe. People can still get on ventilators as they are still available. Soon that will not be the case. Yall stay safe. Wash your hands a lot, wear masks and gloves if you can and are in a store etc. I really dont see what is so hard with these guidelines that some people just wont follow them. It is actually pretty easy.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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05/11/20 08:21 AM
05/11/20 08:21 AM
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How has this thread aged? Anyone care to guess what has been recently exposed in regards to the Imperial College model that was the sole reason we locked down most of the country?
Are millions dying? Was our healthcare system overwhelmed? Were those that questioned the numbers proven wrong? Were those that bought into the massive death tolls and hospitalizations proven right? Have the experts we were called morons for not trusting, been proven right? Has Neil Ferguson at Imperial College, Dr. Tony Fauci , Dr. Brix and the CDC proven credible?
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Re: The numbers were a tool
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05/11/20 09:01 AM
05/11/20 09:01 AM
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It’s all being proven to be the biggest case of fraud EVER. All credibility of the people behind the data and news media concerning Covid-19 is going out the window and mass hysteria took over to ruin the world economies.
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6. And yet another NO. What he said!
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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05/11/20 04:48 PM
05/11/20 04:48 PM
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CDC provisional death count was downgraded from 39 thousand to 37 thousand mysteriously. Now up to 49,867. Lockdown is killing us and will continue to.
Worldwide:
covid deaths = 286,493
flu deaths same timeframe bad year = 290,303
It's closing in on flu.
New York City has 14,753 deaths. Tightly locked down.
Tokyo, the world's largest and most densely populated city, has 155 deaths. Never locked down.
The virus has been in both cities the same amount of time. Tokyo has a considerably older population as Japan's lifespan is 6 years longer than the U.S. On the flip side, much better physical condition on average. Death rate currently 95 times higher in NYC than Tokyo (if this is not a reason to abandon the sedintary/obesity U.S. lifestyle, I don't know what is). If our government's numbers are actually true, that is.
I originally predicted 0.75-1.5 times as bad as flu in a bad year but I am thinking it won't quite make it to the high end. If it ends up at 1.25 times as bad as flu, I will be surprised.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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05/11/20 05:17 PM
05/11/20 05:17 PM
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Any original and updated numbers on US cases? Original model numbers I saw projected that 150,000,000 (basically half the US population) would get it in the US and the death rate would be around 3%, if I'm remembering correctly. Nobody is showing the new models that I can find. I know that Gov Andrew Cuomo was saying, as late as Monday morning, that they expected over half the NY state population, or 10,000,000 New Yorkers, to come down with it (Note: ten million projected cases and they are sitting 37,000 cases right now so they have a ways to go) Then Monday he said that "the number of new cases daily" was doubling every 2 days, then on Tuesday he said it was doubling every 2.7 days then this morning, he said "It appears almost too good to be true but the numbers now show it is only doubling every 4.7 days." It is definitely slowing down based on that data. Especially given the massive ramp up in additional testing that has been going on from Monday until now which should be generating a significantly higher daily number of additional positive cases. People are slow to admit they were wrong or were taken in by the hype. There is a segment that will rationalize with the " better safe than sorry" mantra without considering the impact the overreaction had on the economy and the future of our country. I said at the beginning of this they'd never swallow their pride and admit they were wrong. I stand by that comment.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: Fattyfireplug]
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05/11/20 05:30 PM
05/11/20 05:30 PM
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Out back
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Any original and updated numbers on US cases? Original model numbers I saw projected that 150,000,000 (basically half the US population) would get it in the US and the death rate would be around 3%, if I'm remembering correctly. Nobody is showing the new models that I can find. I know that Gov Andrew Cuomo was saying, as late as Monday morning, that they expected over half the NY state population, or 10,000,000 New Yorkers, to come down with it (Note: ten million projected cases and they are sitting 37,000 cases right now so they have a ways to go) Then Monday he said that "the number of new cases daily" was doubling every 2 days, then on Tuesday he said it was doubling every 2.7 days then this morning, he said "It appears almost too good to be true but the numbers now show it is only doubling every 4.7 days." It is definitely slowing down based on that data. Especially given the massive ramp up in additional testing that has been going on from Monday until now which should be generating a significantly higher daily number of additional positive cases. People are slow to admit they were wrong or were taken in by the hype. There is a segment that will rationalize with the " better safe than sorry" mantra without considering the impact the overreaction had on the economy and the future of our country. I said at the beginning of this they'd never swallow their pride and admit they were wrong. I stand by that comment. They're still claiming, "if we hadn't quarantined it woulda been worse". BULLSCHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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05/11/20 05:41 PM
05/11/20 05:41 PM
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bill
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People are slow to admit they were wrong or were taken in by the hype. There is a segment that will rationalize with the " better safe than sorry" mantra without considering the impact the overreaction had on the economy and the future of our country. [/quote]
I said at the beginning of this they'd never swallow their pride and admit they were wrong. I stand by that comment.
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They're still claiming, "if we hadn't quarantined it woulda been worse".
BULLSCHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/quote]
Who? To my knowledge our local Karen clan hasn't been heard from since it became obvious they got taken for a ride.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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05/11/20 05:47 PM
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I almost forgot - the Japanese have a 10% higher smoking rate than the US as well. That should have been a detriment to their covid death numbers but has not happened. Apparently, level of physical fitness trumps an adult lifetime of smoking where this particular bug is concerned.
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