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Thoughts on season opening date this year?
#3118916
05/08/20 10:55 AM
05/08/20 10:55 AM
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Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,967 Opelika, AL
AU_trout_bum
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Saw this comment from a recent article where Sykes said: For me personally, I think it made hunting a little more difficult as turkeys were farther along in their breeding pattern, which obviously was the goal. I wasn't a fan, and without actual data to support the move, I hope it goes back to mid-March, but it sounds like it won't
Author, Fly Fishing for Redeye Bass: An Adventure Across Southern Waters JacksonKayak Fishing Team --------------------------------------------------- "I do not hunt turkeys because I want to, I hunt them because I have to." - Tom Kelly
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
#3118918
05/08/20 11:01 AM
05/08/20 11:01 AM
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Fun4all
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Nope, didn't favor the hunter, but Chuck is going to do and say what Chuck wants to do and say! And quiet frankly I wouldn't be surprised if there were not a larger number of turkeys killed that had corn in them because it is okay to bait for deer AND hogs! It makes for an easy excuse for having corn out during turkey season, but never let unintended consequences get in the way of an agenda!
Carry on.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
#3119099
05/08/20 01:56 PM
05/08/20 01:56 PM
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ridgestalker
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Heck they are already took 13 days away from us that hunt Skyline.
"The Heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his handiwork" Pslam 19:1
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
#3119150
05/08/20 03:20 PM
05/08/20 03:20 PM
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Southwood7
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So starting season on 3/21 instead of 3/15 put the turkeys further into their breeding period? Wow Chuck. Very astute observation. You gotta have a wildlife degree to figure that one out 😂
Secondly, there were certainly a “boatload” of folks that hunted public land and a very small percentage of those folks killed turkeys. They sure did harass the heck out of them every day of the week though.
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job 33:4
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
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05/08/20 03:38 PM
05/08/20 03:38 PM
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BhamFred
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so many turkey hunters had so much more time to hunt way overshadowed the changed opening date. Dumbassery at its finest.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
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05/08/20 03:40 PM
05/08/20 03:40 PM
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ParrotHead89
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
#3119179
05/08/20 04:04 PM
05/08/20 04:04 PM
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Posts: 12,104 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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That article was really strange; go to their website and read it if you haven't already. Chuck mentioned every bit of anecdotal information he could imagine as to why the harvest was up over 50%. It was due to the virus, due to his statements at the CAB meeting, due to the weather, even due to the season starting later. So fewer turkeys would have been killed if the season opened 3/15? He mentioned every possibility, except that perhaps we just have more turkeys. That doesn't fit the agenda, so that ain't gonna even be considered. And then in the article they had to emphasize that poult recruitment continues to go down. And then in the next paragraph it said that 2019 jake numbers were higher than had ever been reported. So how do we get more jakes than ever recorded, and yet poult production is down? Those two numbers don't add up very well. It sure seems that they are determined to ignore any data that doesn't fit the current agenda. Personal information is mostly irrelevant, but I killed a limit with less effort than ever in my 55 years of hunting them. I think that the Good Ole Days of turkey hunting are right now,. Chuck sure doesn't mind drawing conclusions based on his personal hunting experience, so I guess I can do it too. One item that definitely impacted the harvest in a negative way was the explosion of the bull gnat population in south AL. I know if several hunters that didn't put forth much hunting effort in some places because of them, and I was one of them. I usually hunt a lot in Perry county, but I hunted just 2 mornings there this year. I got eaten up so bad opening day that my family convinced me I had the shingles. It did look like it. I will have to find some kind of netting before next year. That's assuming that they don't announce that turkey numbers are so low that they have to cancel the season.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
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05/08/20 04:10 PM
05/08/20 04:10 PM
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257wbymag
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Cause chuck is a pompous smug asshole. Plain and simple. And an idot moran
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
#3119188
05/08/20 04:14 PM
05/08/20 04:14 PM
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TurkeyJoe
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Chuck’s assertion in that article that the reported harvest is up because of his veiled threats rubbed me the wrong way. I have participated in the turkey hunter survey every year, but will not this year, and I’m gonna write them a note and tell them why. May not matter to them, but they just lost 33 Alabama mornings worth of data.
Micah 6:8
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: TurkeyJoe]
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05/08/20 04:26 PM
05/08/20 04:26 PM
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Clem
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Chuck’s assertion in that article that the reported harvest is up because of his veiled threats rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't care for it, either. "Start reporting or we may not have a season" is dictatorial bullchit.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
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05/08/20 04:34 PM
05/08/20 04:34 PM
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257wbymag
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Clem you got the dic part right
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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05/08/20 04:35 PM
05/08/20 04:35 PM
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GomerPyle
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That article was really strange; go to their website and read it if you haven't already. Chuck mentioned every bit of anecdotal information he could imagine as to why the harvest was up over 50%. It was due to the virus, due to his statements at the CAB meeting, due to the weather, even due to the season starting later. So fewer turkeys would have been killed if the season opened 3/15? He mentioned every possibility, except that perhaps we just have more turkeys. That doesn't fit the agenda, so that ain't gonna even be considered. And then in the article they had to emphasize that poult recruitment continues to go down. And then in the next paragraph it said that 2019 jake numbers were higher than had ever been reported. So how do we get more jakes than ever recorded, and yet poult production is down? Those two numbers don't add up very well. It sure seems that they are determined to ignore any data that doesn't fit the current agenda. Personal information is mostly irrelevant, but I killed a limit with less effort than ever in my 55 years of hunting them. I think that the Good Ole Days of turkey hunting are right now,. Chuck sure doesn't mind drawing conclusions based on his personal hunting experience, so I guess I can do it too. One item that definitely impacted the harvest in a negative way was the explosion of the bull gnat population in south AL. I know if several hunters that didn't put forth much hunting effort in some places because of them, and I was one of them. I usually hunt a lot in Perry county, but I hunted just 2 mornings there this year. I got eaten up so bad opening day that my family convinced me I had the shingles. It did look like it. I will have to find some kind of netting before next year. That's assuming that they don't announce that turkey numbers are so low that they have to cancel the season. "Chit...all this data doesn't support the conclusion we came to prior to collecting it........let's just make something up, won't matter anyway, we can do whatever the hell we want b/c we were appointed, not elected."
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars 2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement 3. Taxation Is Theft
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: NEbamahunter]
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05/08/20 05:06 PM
05/08/20 05:06 PM
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Fishduck
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I think it's crap ... not sure if it's my style or what but I usually have a lot of luck that first week of season, followed by a dry spell last week of march. This season basically started out in time of yr I would consider my least successful (well March 23rd - April1st ish) That is almost exactly what I normally see. A really good 1st week of the old opener then a lull until about the 1st.
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: AU_trout_bum]
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05/08/20 05:36 PM
05/08/20 05:36 PM
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Out back
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Chuck is an incompetent, indignant arrogant idiot! Unfortunately our state agencies, these days, seem to reward and even celebrate incompetence.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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05/08/20 06:40 PM
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2Dogs
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And then in the article they had to emphasize that poult recruitment continues to go down. And then in the next paragraph it said that 2019 jake numbers were higher than had ever been reported. So how do we get more jakes than ever recorded, and yet poult production is down? Those two numbers don't add up very well. It sure seems that they are determined to ignore any data that doesn't fit the current agenda.
Calling out Chuck , or any of his Lieutenants to explain why this isn't a major factor in this year's harvest. Oh wait, admitting to a couple of good hatches back to back and much higher jake numbers in '19 doesn't support dropping the bag limit. I'm betting Crickets
"Why do you ask"?
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Re: Thoughts on season opening date this year?
[Re: Clem]
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05/08/20 08:30 PM
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Southwood7
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Chuck’s assertion in that article that the reported harvest is up because of his veiled threats rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't care for it, either. "Start reporting or we may not have a season" is dictatorial bullchit. Yes it is. Don’t worry guys the states computer model will make the right decisions for us.
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life. Job 33:4
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