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Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: Geno] #3084714
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Originally Posted by Geno
37,743 now globally - not just in our country. I'm no globalist by a long shot but global things should be spoken of in a global context.


Is the Chinese government known for being truthful on a good day?
Why should the number of deaths out of China be taken as legitimate?

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084715
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"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles"
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Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084725
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Swedens deaths have risen 50% in 2 days; since article written. The have 2.5 times the population of Alabama and 12 times the deaths, so far. Good strategy? TBD

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084726
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Can you give a sysnopsis? Not all of us want to subscribe to the NYT.


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: jawbone] #3084742
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Originally Posted by jawbone


Can you give a sysnopsis? Not all of us want to subscribe to the NYT.


Article available for me; no sub

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: jawbone] #3084744
03/30/20 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jawbone


Can you give a sysnopsis? Not all of us want to subscribe to the NYT.

Sweden is doing quarantine lite and we will have to wait and see how that turns out.

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084763
03/30/20 07:23 PM
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Belarus is also rejecting a complete national lockdown as hysteria and psychosis.

Chinese numbers are all lies so completely unreliable.

However, one interesting thing is to divide the total confirmed cases by the number of deaths.

USA : 3148/163,479 = .019.

World (that includes China's alleged numbers): 37,780/784,381 = .048

And it must be kept in mind that the number of known cases is less then the total number of infected people.

Those numbers come from www.worldodometers.info


Last edited by WmHunter; 03/30/20 07:26 PM.

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" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: WmHunter] #3084824
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Belarus is also rejecting a complete national lockdown as hysteria and psychosis.

Chinese numbers are all lies so completely unreliable.

However, one interesting thing is to divide the total confirmed cases by the number of deaths.

USA : 3148/163,479 = .019.

World (that includes China's alleged numbers): 37,780/784,381 = .048

And it must be kept in mind that the number of known cases is less then the total number of infected people.

Those numbers come from www.worldodometers.info



If you're using that to determine death rate, that's just bad math. You have to use CLOSED cases not totatl.


Coronavirus Cases:
163,490
Deaths:
3,148
Recovered:
5,506


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: IDOT] #3084829
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Originally Posted by IDOT
Originally Posted by WmHunter
Belarus is also rejecting a complete national lockdown as hysteria and psychosis.

Chinese numbers are all lies so completely unreliable.

However, one interesting thing is to divide the total confirmed cases by the number of deaths.

USA : 3148/163,479 = .019.

World (that includes China's alleged numbers): 37,780/784,381 = .048

And it must be kept in mind that the number of known cases is less then the total number of infected people.

Those numbers come from www.worldodometers.info



If you're using that to determine death rate, that's just bad math. You have to use CLOSED cases not totatl.


Coronavirus Cases:
163,490
Deaths:
3,148
Recovered:
5,506


Except we have no clue how many people have already had and recovered from the virus that were never tested

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084837
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That is true Ben - that is another unknown number.

In my post above I should have made clear that I wasn't drawing any conclusions about any numbers.
I was just posting the basic known numbers and leaving it up to math and stats people to make conclusions.
IDOT makes a great point about recovered numbers.



Last edited by WmHunter; 03/30/20 08:29 PM.

"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: WmHunter] #3084850
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
That is true Ben - that is another unknown number.

In my post above I should have made clear that I wasn't drawing any conclusions about any numbers.
I was just posting the basic known numbers and leaving it up to math and stats people to make conclusions.
IDOT makes a great point about recovered numbers.




We'll never know the actual, but I'm guessing they used the closed cases/deaths. Wish this crap would end tomorrow. Not sure what our country is going to look like after another 30days of lock down.


Originally Posted by Patricia Heaton
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.


Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: IDOT] #3084855
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Originally Posted by IDOT
Originally Posted by WmHunter
That is true Ben - that is another unknown number.

In my post above I should have made clear that I wasn't drawing any conclusions about any numbers.
I was just posting the basic known numbers and leaving it up to math and stats people to make conclusions.
IDOT makes a great point about recovered numbers.




We'll never know the actual, but I'm guessing they used the closed cases/deaths. Wish this crap would end tomorrow. Not sure what our country is going to look like after another 30days of lock down.

Agreed

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084863
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The Belarus president is a nut job. I seriously doubt he will allow any factual numbers to be released.


GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: Booger] #3084883
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Originally Posted by Booger
The Belarus president is a nut job. I seriously doubt he will allow any factual numbers to be released.


Obviously.

Secondary nut job only to several in this thread

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084896
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I like this Belarus President, he’s recommending everyone work in the fields and drink 50 grams of Vodka a day! I think I found where 257 needs to retire!

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084898
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Well I just did the grams to oz conversion by that conversion 257 may want to reconsider but I like how President Lushenko is thinking!

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084901
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Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3084905
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It's going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better.

Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: bill] #3085030
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The spanish flu (which killed 25 million worldwide) victims that were treated outside in sunshine recovered at twice the rate of those treated inside hospitals. The sunshine and fresh air is the difference. That took some serious research to figure out. Us making people stay inside is making it worse - not better.


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Re: The numbers were a tool [Re: Geno] #3085034
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Originally Posted by Geno
The spanish flu (which killed 25 million worldwide) victims that were treated outside in sunshine recovered at twice the rate of those treated inside hospitals. The sunshine and fresh air is the difference. That took some serious research to figure out. Us making people stay inside is making it worse - not better.


Sunshine is good for people, just don't over expose. I work outside in the sunshine. Except for today. Today I'll watch it rain.


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