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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: Geno]
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03/30/20 06:35 PM
03/30/20 06:35 PM
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37,743 now globally - not just in our country. I'm no globalist by a long shot but global things should be spoken of in a global context. Is the Chinese government known for being truthful on a good day? Why should the number of deaths out of China be taken as legitimate?
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: jawbone]
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03/30/20 06:54 PM
03/30/20 06:54 PM
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Can you give a sysnopsis? Not all of us want to subscribe to the NYT. Article available for me; no sub
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: jawbone]
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03/30/20 06:56 PM
03/30/20 06:56 PM
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Ant67
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Can you give a sysnopsis? Not all of us want to subscribe to the NYT. Sweden is doing quarantine lite and we will have to wait and see how that turns out.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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03/30/20 07:23 PM
03/30/20 07:23 PM
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WmHunter
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Belarus is also rejecting a complete national lockdown as hysteria and psychosis. Chinese numbers are all lies so completely unreliable. However, one interesting thing is to divide the total confirmed cases by the number of deaths. USA : 3148/163,479 = .019. World (that includes China's alleged numbers): 37,780/784,381 = .048 And it must be kept in mind that the number of known cases is less then the total number of infected people. Those numbers come from www.worldodometers.info
Last edited by WmHunter; 03/30/20 07:26 PM.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: WmHunter]
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03/30/20 08:14 PM
03/30/20 08:14 PM
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IDOT
I am Cornholio
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Belarus is also rejecting a complete national lockdown as hysteria and psychosis. Chinese numbers are all lies so completely unreliable. However, one interesting thing is to divide the total confirmed cases by the number of deaths. USA : 3148/163,479 = .019. World (that includes China's alleged numbers): 37,780/784,381 = .048 And it must be kept in mind that the number of known cases is less then the total number of infected people. Those numbers come from www.worldodometers.infoIf you're using that to determine death rate, that's just bad math. You have to use CLOSED cases not totatl. Coronavirus Cases: 163,490 Deaths: 3,148 Recovered: 5,506
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: IDOT]
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03/30/20 08:19 PM
03/30/20 08:19 PM
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Ben2
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Belarus is also rejecting a complete national lockdown as hysteria and psychosis. Chinese numbers are all lies so completely unreliable. However, one interesting thing is to divide the total confirmed cases by the number of deaths. USA : 3148/163,479 = .019. World (that includes China's alleged numbers): 37,780/784,381 = .048 And it must be kept in mind that the number of known cases is less then the total number of infected people. Those numbers come from www.worldodometers.infoIf you're using that to determine death rate, that's just bad math. You have to use CLOSED cases not totatl. Coronavirus Cases: 163,490 Deaths: 3,148 Recovered: 5,506 Except we have no clue how many people have already had and recovered from the virus that were never tested
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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03/30/20 08:26 PM
03/30/20 08:26 PM
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WmHunter
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That is true Ben - that is another unknown number.
In my post above I should have made clear that I wasn't drawing any conclusions about any numbers. I was just posting the basic known numbers and leaving it up to math and stats people to make conclusions. IDOT makes a great point about recovered numbers.
Last edited by WmHunter; 03/30/20 08:29 PM.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: WmHunter]
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03/30/20 08:37 PM
03/30/20 08:37 PM
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IDOT
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That is true Ben - that is another unknown number.
In my post above I should have made clear that I wasn't drawing any conclusions about any numbers. I was just posting the basic known numbers and leaving it up to math and stats people to make conclusions. IDOT makes a great point about recovered numbers.
We'll never know the actual, but I'm guessing they used the closed cases/deaths. Wish this crap would end tomorrow. Not sure what our country is going to look like after another 30days of lock down.
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: IDOT]
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03/30/20 08:40 PM
03/30/20 08:40 PM
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Ben2
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That is true Ben - that is another unknown number.
In my post above I should have made clear that I wasn't drawing any conclusions about any numbers. I was just posting the basic known numbers and leaving it up to math and stats people to make conclusions. IDOT makes a great point about recovered numbers.
We'll never know the actual, but I'm guessing they used the closed cases/deaths. Wish this crap would end tomorrow. Not sure what our country is going to look like after another 30days of lock down. Agreed
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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03/30/20 08:45 PM
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The Belarus president is a nut job. I seriously doubt he will allow any factual numbers to be released.
GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: Booger]
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03/30/20 08:54 PM
03/30/20 08:54 PM
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The Belarus president is a nut job. I seriously doubt he will allow any factual numbers to be released. Obviously. Secondary nut job only to several in this thread
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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03/30/20 09:20 PM
03/30/20 09:20 PM
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They make shitty tractors
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: bill]
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03/31/20 06:50 AM
03/31/20 06:50 AM
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Geno
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The spanish flu (which killed 25 million worldwide) victims that were treated outside in sunshine recovered at twice the rate of those treated inside hospitals. The sunshine and fresh air is the difference. That took some serious research to figure out. Us making people stay inside is making it worse - not better.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: The numbers were a tool
[Re: Geno]
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03/31/20 06:59 AM
03/31/20 06:59 AM
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Wiley Coyote
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The spanish flu (which killed 25 million worldwide) victims that were treated outside in sunshine recovered at twice the rate of those treated inside hospitals. The sunshine and fresh air is the difference. That took some serious research to figure out. Us making people stay inside is making it worse - not better. Sunshine is good for people, just don't over expose. I work outside in the sunshine. Except for today. Today I'll watch it rain.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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