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Re: School me on perennial clover plots
[Re: joeml18]
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03/19/20 05:51 AM
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You definitely have to mow it or it will get tall, fall over and choke out new growth. Spraying is almost always necessary but depends on how many weeds/grasses you have and how clean you want the plot. You need a different chemical for grasses vs weeds. I used to grow about 14 acres of Advantage Ladino and had completely weed free plots but I put my time in to get and keep them that way. This Fall I'll be going back to that program, beginning with killing all the plots in June, turning them in July, killing again in August and planting in September/October.
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Re: School me on perennial clover plots
[Re: joeml18]
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03/20/20 06:12 AM
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It's good that your deer could control the growth of your plot(s). That could also be relative to the variety of clover that you planted. The Advantage Ladino that I planted would get knee high, tough and fall over if it wasn't mowed and the deer couldn't graze the acreage down fast enough to keep it in check. Once it gets tall and tough they don't eat it as well as the shorter, tender plants. Nutrient content was never a consideration.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: School me on perennial clover plots
[Re: joeml18]
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03/20/20 09:47 AM
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What would be the purpose then of going to all the trouble to keep it "weed free" if it is more acreage than the deer can keep up with and therefore costing you more work to go back and mow? Wouldn't it be a lot simpler to not worry about the "weeds" so much?
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Re: School me on perennial clover plots
[Re: CNC]
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03/20/20 11:15 AM
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What would be the purpose then of going to all the trouble to keep it "weed free" if it is more acreage than the deer can keep up with and therefore costing you more work to go back and mow? Wouldn't it be a lot simpler to not worry about the "weeds" so much? That's a good point. As long as the vast majority is clover, a few weeds don't bother me. I'm sure they bother the deer even less.
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Re: School me on perennial clover plots
[Re: joeml18]
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03/20/20 03:32 PM
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A few weeds allowed to make seed make more weeds and more weeds make.... .... ..... ....... Some weed seeds will lie dormant for more than one season so it's beneficial to not allow weeds to get a start at all.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: School me on perennial clover plots
[Re: joeml18]
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03/21/20 01:01 PM
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Why would that matter at all? What's clover's main function in life?
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Re: School me on perennial clover plots
[Re: Tigger85]
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03/24/20 03:34 PM
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Clover is a legume and provides high protein to animals and fixes nitrogen in the soil. High protein builds antlers and body condition. Nitrogen makes other plants grow so it is used as a cover crop for food source plants, i.e. Corn, cotton etc Correct.....producing nitrogen was what I was specifically after in asking that....clover produces nitrogen for OTHER plants....it's actually more of a companion crop really. It will grow just fine in conjunction with other natural for ages. One of the reasons folks start having trouble with clover monocultures after awhile is because their C:.N ratio is out of whack.....Their producing mostly all."N" and no "C".....Over time this causes more and more of a need for carbon to be added back to the soil. All of the excess N being produced and not used begins to promote more and more carbon producing plants
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