It shocks me, the white country boys at work that say they are republican but hate trump

I take it none of them have a 401K. But, with that mentality, if they do they should donate them to the Dems.

It shocks me, the white country boys at work that say they are republican but hate trump and would rather vote for buttigig. The fake news factor gets harder and harder to overcome. Between the schools, news, corporations, and soon churches preaching communism, this may be our last conservative president. Shoot, the news already picked romney, and mccain for us the last two tries.

It shocks me, the white country boys at work that say they are republican but hate trump and would rather vote for buttigig. The fake news factor gets harder and harder to overcome. Between the schools, news, corporations, and soon churches preaching communism, this may be our last conservative president. Shoot, the news already picked romney, and mccain for us the last two tries.

Pete Buttigieg says it's impossible to be a Christian and support Trump.

Before you guys throw MarksOutdoors under the bus, it seems to me that Trump was asked during his candidacy if he’d ever asked God for forgiveness and his answer was “I’ve never done anything to ask forgiveness for..” Based on that comment it would lead me to believe that Trump is not a saved man. Is it possible to be unsaved and do good things? Absolutely. Is it possible to be saved and do bad things? Absolutely. It is not our place to judge his salvation. It is our place to determine if his actions are Christ-like. Scripture is clear on all these accounts. If you don’t like what I posted, take it up with the Word

Pete Buttigieg says it's impossible to be a Christian and support Trump.

I wonder what his take on homosexuality and Christianity are?

I would think at this point..... whether Trump is a believer or not is irrelevant. The guy's moral compass is better than most people that identify as Christians. For example, apparently a huge segment of the Democratic party. That's the same Democratic party that includes the other people sitting in the Church pew next to you.... also ready to throw their Bible at the first person they come across they can find some kind of fault in.

How many of them voted for Hillary? Some of them did. How many are going to vote for Bernie? Some of them are.

That's your associates and those in your own ranks. Maybe in a Church in Ohio but you gotta own that too. Collectively... That's your people just the same.

But what I don't understand is why is DJT not allowed in that circle of trust and can't possibly be a Christian and is this big bad walking around Atheist Boogie Man?

Try something new for me..... Think for yourself for a change.

Who was the last President besides him to show up at an anti-abortion rally?

What did Obama do that was so "Christian"? I bet some of y'all voted for him.

Thank you hypocrite

In fact, the more moral (legalistic) you try to act, the more I doubt your salvation (because I believe you don't understand the gift of grace, you think you have to earn it or repay Him for it, and that is NOT the Gospel). The more moral someone tries to act, the more I doubt their understanding of Christ.

"You will know them by their fruit." What is that fruit? Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. All of these are internal traits that show themselves in outward behavior. While simulating those outward behaviors is possible (at least partly) from the wrong internal motivation, it is impossible to possess those traits internally and not show them outwardly.



I get what you are trying to say here, but by this logic we would be discounting grace to strive for a John 14:15 life. It is BECAUSE I understand grace that I love Christ, and in love of Him I strive to keep his commandments (ie: living a moral life).

I also do not equate legalism and living a moral life. "Legalism" says I must do ____ to be saved, whereas a person who is truly following Christ will be seen as living a moral life as a bi-product of their faith.

I see what you're saying, I don't really disagree. Some of my words just come from my experiences.... I should say my "theological learning curve" maybe. I want to use the word "churchy", maybe "self righteous"? It goes back to the whole "Tree of Life" vs "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" juxtaposition. I think most Christians would describe Christianity as the struggle between good and evil, and that understanding comes out in their words and behaviors as "a real Christian wouldn't do this or that". These people wouldn't drink, or cuss, or just generally do the things we would call "bad". You know, the stuff non-Christians do. I describe Christianity as accepting the gift of His salvation, irrespective of my behavior, completely done and finished forever. He is the active agent, and His Spirit living inside me will change me over time. I was born totally depraved, spiritually dead, and I still live in that corrupt state until I'm lifted Home with Him. I still lust, cuss, hate, anger, apathy towards His church, even if I can successfully hide that from you. That's why I discount someone's behavior. I was GOOD at the game, so good that I was chairman of deacons and leading an adult Sunday School class with 60+ members, and was lost as goose. I knew enough theology to pull it off, and I "behaved" like a "good Christian" should. And nobody knew I was Hellbound, I didn't even know. My theology told me I had walked that aisle, and my "fruit" was really sweet looking.