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Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3036913
02/09/20 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hoggin
Because the government “borrowed” less of your money for free all year or your getting less of someone else money they you didn’t earn. Plain and simple. Really there is no other reason

It blows my mind how many people don’t understand that.

Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
It doesn't add up. 2k less income shouldnt mean 1500 less in return is my point. I knew id have to spell it out.



Somebody needs it spelled out.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3036917
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$700 less than last year. Paid in more but I also made more. Not complaining tho since I’ve owed money every year before Trump.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3036919
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Trump ended several tax deductions. BUT he also cut taxes. I don't get to claim mileage on my truck any more but overall I pay less in than before. If you want to get more back, just loan the guvment more and then file to get it back.

Wiley is the mileage deduction gone away this year?


Yes.


Fed vs state is two different animals.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3036921
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I got the turbo tax program, entered my daughters college expenses and my tax acually went up. makes no sense why a college credit would increase state taxes by alot more than the $50 it took off federal.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Fuzzy_Bunny] #3036933
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Bunny
Originally Posted by hoggin
Because the government “borrowed” less of your money for free all year or your getting less of someone else money they you didn’t earn. Plain and simple. Really there is no other reason

It blows my mind how many people don’t understand that.

Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
It doesn't add up. 2k less income shouldnt mean 1500 less in return is my point. I knew id have to spell it out.



Somebody needs it spelled out.


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Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3036939
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Never understood folks who paid in more just to get a refund every year.


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Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: General] #3036943
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Originally Posted by General
Never understood folks who paid in more just to get a refund every year.


They aren’t disciplined enough to put it in a savings account.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: hunterbuck] #3036975
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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by AU7MM08
In my perfect utopia I owe the Feds $1.00 and I owe the state $1.00.


True. If you're getting big refunds, you're doing it wrong.


Unless you are a low income earner with kids. Then you pay in 1k or so and get back 8k-9k.


If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3037006
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I pay every year.. I’ll probably owe the state $1500 and if I had to guess $1000 or more for the feds🤬

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3037015
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This is the first year I have to pay

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3037022
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One sure way to get an american mad at you is to let them find out youre getting more out of the govt than they are, boy that makes people mad. Everybody gets away with every penny they can and its all well and good till they find out that fella over there got by with a little more than they did. Not pointed at you Jake, just a general observance about the american public.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: whack-n-stack] #3037029
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by General
Never understood folks who paid in more just to get a refund every year.


They aren’t disciplined enough to put it in a savings account.


Or a simple brokerage account.


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Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: imadeerhntr] #3037054
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Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Trump ended several tax deductions. BUT he also cut taxes. I don't get to claim mileage on my truck any more but overall I pay less in than before. If you want to get more back, just loan the guvment more and then file to get it back.

Wiley is the mileage deduction gone away this year?


IR-2019-215, December 31, 2019

WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service today issued the 2020 optional standard mileage rates (PDF) used to calculate the deductible costs of operating an automobile for business, charitable, medical or moving purposes.

Beginning on January 1, 2020, the standard mileage rates for the use of a car (also vans, pickups or panel trucks) will be:

57.5 cents per mile driven for business use, down one half of a cent from the rate for 2019,
17 cents per mile driven for medical or moving purposes, down three cents from the rate for 2019, and
14 cents per mile driven in service of charitable organizations.
The business mileage rate decreased one half of a cent for business travel driven and three cents for medical and certain moving expense from the rates for 2019.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: wew3006] #3037059
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Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by imadeerhntr
Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
Trump ended several tax deductions. BUT he also cut taxes. I don't get to claim mileage on my truck any more but overall I pay less in than before. If you want to get more back, just loan the guvment more and then file to get it back.

Wiley is the mileage deduction gone away this year?


IR-2019-215, December 31, 2019

WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service today issued the 2020 optional standard mileage rates (PDF) used to calculate the deductible costs of operating an automobile for business, charitable, medical or moving purposes.

Beginning on January 1, 2020, the standard mileage rates for the use of a car (also vans, pickups or panel trucks) will be:

57.5 cents per mile driven for business use, down one half of a cent from the rate for 2019,
17 cents per mile driven for medical or moving purposes, down three cents from the rate for 2019, and
14 cents per mile driven in service of charitable organizations.
The business mileage rate decreased one half of a cent for business travel driven and three cents for medical and certain moving expense from the rates for 2019.


That's GOOD news! Looks like they snuck it back in on the last day of the year. My tax man told me last year that it was being ended and it appears that it WAS as of December 30 but got rescinded. Awesome!!!


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Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3037130
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First year Iv ever got a refund . I usually have to pay on the farm .

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3037138
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If you get a refund, you’re getting screwed. Breaking even at the end of the year means you got more than you’ll ever get from a refund.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: kimbrell224] #3037161
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Originally Posted by kimbrell224
If you get a refund, you’re getting screwed. Breaking even at the end of the year means you got more than you’ll ever get from a refund.

Huh?

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: wew3006] #3037195
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Originally Posted by wew3006
Originally Posted by kimbrell224
If you get a refund, you’re getting screwed. Breaking even at the end of the year means you got more than you’ll ever get from a refund.

Huh?


The govt gets a loan from you without paying interest, and you don’t get to use your money until they decide how much and when to give back to you

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3037210
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I agree with y'all that getting a big refund isn't good, but you wouldn't be getting much interest on that $1,000 during the year. 1% equates to $10, and after taxes more like $7. Stroking a check at the end of the year isn't fun either.

Re: My Tax Return is way less? [Re: Jakethesnake] #3037234
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Stop bitching if you’re getting money back. Come write the check I have to give them every year and then you will be glad you are a W2 employee.

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