ONE of our local processors have taken in close to 3,000 deer this season. That’s more then double then the numbers according to game check/ county statistics. And that’s just ONE processor in the county. What should the state do to better this?

Better what?

You want more limits and regulations?

To better tract the harvest data , to see how or if limits should be adjusted. It’s obvious some counties are better off then others. I do believe we should have more of a limit on does. I can legally kill 109 does. If someone doesn’t think that’s to many something is wrong.

Fill out a survey before getting license. It would be way more accurate. Unneeded but if they have to have data. This would be the way to go.

Yep. Just like HIP. If it’s good enough for the feds, and a animal where no one actually remembers how many they killed (ducks and doves) it’s should be good enough for an animal where most people kill 0-1.

Get rid of chuck.

You can have all the rules you want it gonna do nothing but affect you. I hunt right around Clarke County and Choctaw County and you can’t stop the locals or the outlaws from night hunting or shooting everything they see.

Maybe that processor should call the local warden in to see who has brought in deer and then he can write 3000 tickets for unchecked-in deer.

An honest question: Would harvests be any different if there were no DCNR and no rules/regs/stips?

Basically, if something like hunting had no oversight or concern, like a return to the early settlers day when each man had full unfettered liberty, would we kill more or less today? I actually think I could make a case we'd kill less.

What say you?

I don't think that's too many. Having that allowance gives the landowner freedom of choice to do what he or she believes needs to be done.

The state is not in the business of creating Doe or Deer Nirvana and no one is shooting 109 does a year. The only way that may be happening is on a depredation permit. The average Joe Hunter is not shooting 109 does and was not shooting 109 bucks a year before the QDM "No one needs!" crowd got torqued up 15 years ago.

I know of a processor in southwest Louisiana that does more than 3,000 deer a year. Given his location I don't know how he gets that many, and he said other processors around him are busy as heck, too. Three thousand out of a state's overall number of deer probably isn't much.

We have GameCheck. It's being ignored by many. Requiring processors or taxidermists to participate in the state's data collection program would be the next step but would receive pushback. Many of them would not want to become de facto enforcement agents of the state.

If someone wants changes, petition the Advisory Board and DCNR with proof based on biology.

Less, yes, in the overall.

Some would continue to kill one buck a season and maybe a doe or two. Some would kill 7-8. Some would kill whenever they wanted. Just like some drive below or at the speed limit, some maybe 1-2 miles over, and some act like Dale or Cale.

It would balance out, just like when we had the "buck a day" freedom of choice and minimal-limited doe days.

After the 10 extension in the North zone, going against the biologist and their data, what does proof based on biology have to do with anything?

It's what it should be based on and how decisions are made.

Obviously, that's not always the case.

But that doesn't mean you give up forever on that aspect.

That would be a great way to put himself out of business.

Processor should not be able to accept a deer without a confirmation number. They do this in other states so it can’t be that difficult.

Why?? The processor isn't in the enforcement business. It's not his job.

In terms of pure data gathering, it's clear what the state is after is not reliable data. Random surveys provide the most reliable data to make big decisions on. They teach college courses on this, people make careers out of it, and every fortune 500 company collects data used for marketing purposes in this manner.

It's not surprising that our state which is full of corrupt politicians chose a method of data collection that provides data that is essentially useless. They want the data for some reason, but it's not for making sound decisions on game management.

I don't know anyone who actually has a problem with game check. Most of us can't just stand that arrogant indignant chuck Sykes.
If they want game check to work, then get rid of the biggest roadblock.

Oct 15-feb 10 is just too long to hunt a deer.

It is also possible that said processor could be getting deer from multiple counties.