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rut action #3025671
01/28/20 10:34 AM
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at my club in butler county we haven't seen the first buck with a doe or even any younger bucks pushing or chasing does during daylight hours. I still have bucks coming to feeders and what not at night. I've seen some chasing on camera but its all at night time. I can't quite comprehend this as everyone around is busting off shots left and right and we cant seem to see any mature bucks. either we just aren't in the right place at the right time or our bucks are in lock down. I saw 15 does and yearlings in one spot (which is not common here) for two days in a row and not a single buck with any of them. anyone else having this issue?


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Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3025680
01/28/20 10:40 AM
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Definitely been a weird season for me as far as seeing deer period
Have them on cameras but just nothing in the daylight

Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3025691
01/28/20 11:00 AM
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You may have answered your question. It’s quite possible if you’re seeing 10-15 unantlered deer and nothing with antlers you’ve either got way too many does or you too few bucks for the does in estrous. The few bucks around don’t have to look hard for a willing doe so they’re simply not getting seen by your hunters.

Re: rut action [Re: Mbrock] #3025716
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
You may have answered your question. It’s quite possible if you’re seeing 10-15 unantlered deer and nothing with antlers you’ve either got way too many does or you too few bucks for the does in estrous. The few bucks around don’t have to look hard for a willing doe so they’re simply not getting seen by your hunters.


theres only one particular spot on 1600 acres that I see that many does and its because i haven't been killing them. everywhere else if you see 2-3 does in a foodplot, thats a normal hunt. generally every year except this one, i see more bucks than I do does so i dont believe we have too many does. We've killed over 100 does in 8/9 years and maybe 10 bucks. our neighborsx absolutely wax the does also if that changes your opinion. i just dont understand it, I feel like if we shoot more does then we would never see deer


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Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3025751
01/28/20 12:02 PM
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Ok. We can throw that theory out. At the onset of rut it’s fairly common to have bucks push does that are in estrous into tight cover and most ppl don’t really see a lot of rutting behavior until the latter stages of rut when estrous does are becoming scarce. That’s often when the big boys make mistakes. Be patient. It’ll pick up.

Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3025766
01/28/20 12:16 PM
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Talked with my buddy that hunts in butler county this morning and he’s seeing the same as you, does with no bucks.



Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3025814
01/28/20 01:25 PM
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From my own experience hunting the same property for 50 years the intensity of the rut is based on the number of does on your property. I rarely saw deer rutting/chasing before the season long doe season. I complained about all the does being shot around my property and not seeing as many while hunting but then things starting changing. Rubs and scrapes where everywhere. Less does and the bucks have to cruise to find a hot one.Multiple bucks chasing the same doe. I've had as many as 8 different bucks chasing and cruising in a 4 hr. morning hunt. The rut usually happened at the end of the season but it moved back 2 weeks to mid January. I actually have a rut now and its on now! I'm at work

I'm not saying shoot every doe but 15 in one place at the same time is to many. 20 to 25 was what I averaged in a patch before the doe season started. I killed good bucks every year but the quality of the bucks I'm killing now makes me wish this would have happened long ago.

Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3026085
01/28/20 05:33 PM
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We have some property out of Greenville on hwy 10 and experiencing the same thing. Most years, the 22-28th is primetime for it but we have not seen any rut action yet. I also have a lease in Ft Deposit and another in Pine Apple. We have had a good rut in Ft Deposit so far. Our place in Pine Apple seems like it wants to kick off but just hasn't yet.

Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3026101
01/28/20 05:43 PM
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This weather hasn’t helped at all

Re: rut action [Re: Forrestgump1] #3026488
01/28/20 10:56 PM
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I’m in Conecuh County right on the Butler County line. We saw 5 bucks this weekend with 4 of those being 8 points. One of those 8 points was feeding in a plot with 2 does and could have cared less. One of the 8pts died and he had dark tarsals and was stinking bad. Our bucks were really cruising hard, but the does aren’t ready. Still have does with yearlings nursing

Re: rut action [Re: Mbrock] #3027069
01/29/20 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Ok. We can throw that theory out. At the onset of rut it’s fairly common to have bucks push does that are in estrous into tight cover and most ppl don’t really see a lot of rutting behavior until the latter stages of rut when estrous does are becoming scarce. That’s often when the big boys make mistakes. Be patient. It’ll pick up.


Last weekend was the first time i have witnessed this. I sat down in a shooting house that is around 100 yards away from the field it overlooks, there was a ridge with some decent cover around 50 yards away and within 5 min of sitting down i start seeing antler everywhere. I had a really big buck, a borderline shooter and 3 other small bucks with one doe in that small area. The doe would bed down and so would the two big bucks. The smaller ones would run off and chase other deer but the 2 big ones stayed right there. I thought they had left because when they bedded down i could not see them anymore, a couple of hours later they stood back up and i could see glimpses of them again. The doe didn't move 30 yards the entire afternoon and the bucks would move in circles around her and work some limbs and rubs but surprisingly were not aggressive with each other. I never could get a clean shot and i eventually eased out at dark. A week later my neighbor saw the same 2 bucks locked down with a doe on the complete opposite side of our property. It was pretty cool seeing that.

Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3027224
01/29/20 05:40 PM
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We have seen a little chasing in Butler county down hwy 59, but nothing big. And not a lot of chasing.

Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3027240
01/29/20 05:55 PM
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Young bucks are doing a lot of chasing right now. I have seen does with their tails stuck straight out this whole week. I have yet to see a mature buck in the mix lately. Saw one that was probably 3 on the 18th. He was tight on a doe with several younger bucks attentively watching. Like Mbrock has stated before you can't kill whats not there. I hope there are some mature bucks around and maybe at least get a glimpse of one. They're probably locked down like DMC stated or they're not there. Exuberant amount of sign.


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Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3029239
01/31/20 08:02 PM
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Colbert county, been seeing groups of up to 10 or more does all season long. Saw one 4pt following them 10 days ago. I think the ratio is way off

Re: rut action [Re: subtlevibe] #3029426
01/31/20 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by subtlevibe
Colbert county, been seeing groups of up to 10 or more does all season long. Saw one 4pt following them 10 days ago. I think the ratio is way off

The group is not where you find the hot doe. Find a doe by herself and you have a chance otherwise you are wasting time.

Re: rut action [Re: Turkeymaster] #3029541
01/31/20 10:55 PM
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Shoot all the does the bucks will multiply asexually and there will be nothing but bucks left.

Seriously though. You answered your own question. They are rutting. Just doing it at night on your place.


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