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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020196
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243 and 338

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020228
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Seems like 3 would be best.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020240
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.308 Sako with a 50mm Zeiss Conquest for home and a Weatherby Mk V in .300 Weatherby magnum with a similar scope, maybe a 3-12 x 56 for out west. Both in stainless with synthetic stocks.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020251
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I would get a 20" Model 7 HS Precision in 7mm-08.

The other one would be a .300 WBY Mark V


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020271
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300 wm and either a 7mm-08 or 280ai IF I had to choose

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: willdo22] #3020273
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Originally Posted by willdo22
Seems like 3 would be best.

What would be your 3 and what would be the reasoning or purposes?

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: 1955Retiree] #3020289
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Originally Posted by 1955Retiree
Originally Posted by Cactus_buck
30-06 and 7 mag

If you didn’t say an odd round I’d go with a 6.5 (whatever you want to add after) I’d go PRC. and a magnum round


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IMO those are too close in ballistics,

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Originally Posted by jb20
300 win short mag and 308 given your barrel


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020307
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Originally Posted by just_an_illusion
The magnum wether it be a 300 or 338 will definitely be a 26" barrel, any shorter is a waste in my opinion.

How does the 6.5 PRC, the 6.5-06 and the 280AI compare and what do they offer over the ol faithful 30-06 with 165s? The idea of high BC bullets from either of the previous 3 really shines out west in the wind but I don't know that they offer any advantage here where 90% of my hunting will be less that 300 yards. Also I don't know this to be absolute truth but I've heard and read that the high BC bullets don't kill as well (fast) as the old standby lower BC bullets from traditional cartridges because of the higher sectional density and the tendiacy to penetrate so well. Any truth to that? Seems that that may be why the 25-06 and 257Wby are such stone cold killers as the 25 cal bullets don't have great BC or SD. The same for cup and core 150s from a -06 or 308.

IMHO, 24" barrels are the way to go unless it's a big magnum like a 300 Weatherby, 300 RUM or similar, where the extra barrel length is good. Absolutely no need for a 26" barrel on a 338 win mag, and 24" is just right for a 300 WSM or 300 winny. I've found barrels over 24" start to be a PITA to handle in the woods or a shootin house. If you add a brake its 28" and would only use a gun like that for long range shooting from a house.

6.5 PRC with a 143 ELD X will flat out kill deer way out there. Buddy of mine dropped a doe in her tracks at 820 yards last week with that combo, in a 10 MPH cross wind. Said he allowed for about a foot of wind drift and didn't need that much.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: willdo22] #3020309
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Originally Posted by willdo22
Seems like 30 would be best.

FIFY.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020333
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Now the rub 7 mag/300? Neither is take AU's 22 inch .338 I can't varmint hunt but from Coyotes up I'm good. Scopes? 4x16 3x12 maybe a red dot on the Whelen for hogs bear etc.


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020442
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I bought a 7 mag and a 7mm-08. In my opinion anything in north America can be killed with one of those two.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020451
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300 Win Mag and a .243.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020466
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There will be a 223, 243 and a 30-06 in the safe regardless. Seems it'd be hard to beat a 308win and a 300wby combo. Maybe only by adding a fast, flat something in the middle like a 6.5 job or maybe even a 257Wby.

Anybody got anything for what I posted earlier about high BC bullets vs low BC bullets killing faster at closer ranges?

Keep the ideas rolling guys, who knows, there may be someone else we help along the way.

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020473
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Look at the 280ai


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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020480
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If I could only have 2 it would be my .260 and .280

If I could have 3 it’d be .243, 7-08 and 300win

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020494
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Personally I have no use for a 243 for deer hunting. That's just a personal thing so don't get y'alls drawers all waded up. I'll always have one because I inherated it, but it won't get hunted with much at all.

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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020500
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I have a bunch but would NEVER part with the 7mag. For hunting purposes it’ll do about anything I need it to do in all 50 states (where legal).

Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020573
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Re: If you only had 2 [Re: just_an_illusion] #3020624
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Originally Posted by just_an_illusion
There will be a 223, 243 and a 30-06 in the safe regardless. Seems it'd be hard to beat a 308win and a 300wby combo. Maybe only by adding a fast, flat something in the middle like a 6.5 job or maybe even a 257Wby.

Anybody got anything for what I posted earlier about high BC bullets vs low BC bullets killing faster at closer ranges?

Keep the ideas rolling guys, who knows, there may be someone else we help along the way.

BC won't matter, but bullet construction does. Bullets are designed to perform within a certain velocity range. To make a bullet perform at long range, or lower velocity, it has to be more fragile, which means more fragmentation at close range or high velocity. Tougher bullets hold together at closer ranges or higher velocity but may fail to expand at long range or low velocity.

Match bullet selection to your quarry and anticipated range. Despite what some folks say, Alabama deer ain't tough to kill and a rapidly expanding bullet just behind the shoulder will kill it fast.


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