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Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: jwalker77] #3018316
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Mike it definately sucks and the guy doing it is definately wrong for doing it but theres not much you can do about it. You might want to check the laws out on what hes doing. It may be different if theres no fence but I know you have to have a pretty expensive liscense to let people hunt pen deer on your property. If hes charging people and not jumping through the necessary hoops there could be some kind of legal recourse but I guess it would have to be initiated by the state.


I am sure the guy is an overall good guy, I would not go that route even if I could. Just wanted to vent a little a guess.


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Originally Posted by mike35549
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Mike it definately sucks and the guy doing it is definately wrong for doing it but theres not much you can do about it. You might want to check the laws out on what hes doing. It may be different if theres no fence but I know you have to have a pretty expensive liscense to let people hunt pen deer on your property. If hes charging people and not jumping through the necessary hoops there could be some kind of legal recourse but I guess it would have to be initiated by the state.


I am sure the guy is an overall good guy, I would not go that route even if I could. Just wanted to vent a little a guess.

I understand.

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Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: mike35549] #3018388
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We all have different ideas of how to hunt and how to use our properties. Unless he is breaking laws not much you can do. I have a feeder behind my house and I have never killed a deer at it. Several nice bucks have been there over the years, and although I could legally shoot one now I don't think I ever will, I just enjoy seeing them out my window. I have a neighbor who bought 20 acres and pours corn out like crazy now. Lives out of state. He bought this for his hunting camp. He will show up with 3 or 4 buddies, and they will shoot like WW3 for the weekend put out a ton of corn and leave. Come back two weeks later and do it again. I don't like it one bit but the corn law has made it much easier for him to attract and kill many deer.

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jwalker77 what laws would the guy be in violation of? Selling day hunts are no different than leasing or sub-leasing.

Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: hillmp] #3018551
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Originally Posted by hillmp
jwalker77 what laws would the guy be in violation of? Selling day hunts are no different than leasing or sub-leasing.

Im not sure about it if theres no fence. If you have deer in a fence and you are allowing pepole to kill them for money, you have to have a liscense. This is about 10yr old info I got from a fellow who raised orphan deer. He said there were three liscenses 1) to raise orphaned deer, the only way he could get rid of a deer was kill it and eat it, couldnt give them away or let them go. 2) to raise and sell deer, this was much more expensive 3) raise deer or buy and sell deer for the purpose of hunting and killing them, this is the most expensive of the three. I have not spoken to anyone besides him but he wasnt a liar and I had noreason to doubt him. There are others on here who would know for sure about the laws. I do know a game warden visited my friend twice a year to make sure the deer he had were taken care of and the rules were being followed. He said they were pretty serious about it.

Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: jwalker77] #3018679
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by hillmp
jwalker77 what laws would the guy be in violation of? Selling day hunts are no different than leasing or sub-leasing.

Im not sure about it if theres no fence. If you have deer in a fence and you are allowing pepole to kill them for money, you have to have a liscense. This is about 10yr old info I got from a fellow who raised orphan deer. He said there were three liscenses 1) to raise orphaned deer, the only way he could get rid of a deer was kill it and eat it, couldnt give them away or let them go. 2) to raise and sell deer, this was much more expensive 3) raise deer or buy and sell deer for the purpose of hunting and killing them, this is the most expensive of the three. I have not spoken to anyone besides him but he wasnt a liar and I had noreason to doubt him. There are others on here who would know for sure about the laws. I do know a game warden visited my friend twice a year to make sure the deer he had were taken care of and the rules were being followed. He said they were pretty serious about it.


most of this info is dead wrong.....that long ago there was no statewide rehab license, and you had to raise and release into the wild ALL of the animals you rehabbed. There was no license fee at that time. #2 and #3 are the same as far as licenses are concerned


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: mike35549] #3018681
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it's not illegal to sell day hunts on any unfenced land, no restriction of acerage.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

proud Cracker-Americaan

muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: BhamFred] #3018691
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
it's not illegal to sell day hunts on any unfenced land, no restriction of acerage.


Is it earned income/revenue, and does it have to be reported on taxes of federal, state, city/county?
Would it be considered a business in the city/county he resides in?

Although the original poster wrote he didn't want to go this route.

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Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: mike35549] #3018785
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This scenario is one of the reasons the State's one size fits all management strategy sucks. The small landowner is basically at the mercy of their neighbors due to the liberal doe limits.


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And so is the big landowner who has a 20 acre shoot em up neighbor that shoots all the young bucks.


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Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: mike35549] #3018987
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It works both ways. I have more problems with the neighbors - 8 guys hunting on 200 acres that think they can kill 32 bucks per season. That's the flip side of this.

One dude one time told me he shot 23 deer... "mostly spikes". Breaking the law obviously. He thought he was The Buckmaster. Super proud.

And I thought hail... there's something to that. You gotta really work to find and shoot 23 spikes on 75 acres. He had his stands all up and down the property lines...


No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: BhamFred] #3018994
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
Originally Posted by jwalker77
Originally Posted by hillmp
jwalker77 what laws would the guy be in violation of? Selling day hunts are no different than leasing or sub-leasing.

Im not sure about it if theres no fence. If you have deer in a fence and you are allowing pepole to kill them for money, you have to have a liscense. This is about 10yr old info I got from a fellow who raised orphan deer. He said there were three liscenses 1) to raise orphaned deer, the only way he could get rid of a deer was kill it and eat it, couldnt give them away or let them go. 2) to raise and sell deer, this was much more expensive 3) raise deer or buy and sell deer for the purpose of hunting and killing them, this is the most expensive of the three. I have not spoken to anyone besides him but he wasnt a liar and I had noreason to doubt him. There are others on here who would know for sure about the laws. I do know a game warden visited my friend twice a year to make sure the deer he had were taken care of and the rules were being followed. He said they were pretty serious about it.


most of this info is dead wrong.....that long ago there was no statewide rehab license, and you had to raise and release into the wild ALL of the animals you rehabbed. There was no license fee at that time. #2 and #3 are the same as far as licenses are concerned

I stand corrected, I was just reporting what I was told, BhamFred mod know better than me.

Re: Small acerage problems. [Re: mike35549] #3019016
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I just heard reliable info that somebody at our local project housing shot one yesterday evening. I heard the shot and wondered where exactly it came from. Idk how the Hell thats not illegal?


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