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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: SharpSpur]
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12/27/19 07:28 PM
12/27/19 07:28 PM
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Joined: Aug 2003
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Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Drills need softer ground. No-till is worth the extra cost. We use both. No-till can save time. Plus you can fill and go.
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: Cynical]
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12/28/19 08:22 PM
12/28/19 08:22 PM
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jaredhunts
Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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I have a no-till drill and I HATE food plots planted with it. They look shitty to me because there are these awesome little 7.5” rows of green stubble eaten down to ground level, with nothing in the middle until the next green row. The deer eat the young green growth LONG before it can crown over and fill in between the rows. The effect is that the fields have little green lines where the seed is planted and nothing in between the lines. Personally I like the randomness of broadcasting food plots. The green carpet look let’s you hunt much later. Cant you cross cross the field?
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: Cynical]
#2996462
12/28/19 10:34 PM
12/28/19 10:34 PM
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Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 5,209 Georgia and Missouri
Semo
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Georgia and Missouri
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I have a no-till drill and I HATE food plots planted with it. They look shitty to me because there are these awesome little 7.5” rows of green stubble eaten down to ground level, with nothing in the middle until the next green row. The deer eat the young green growth LONG before it can crown over and fill in between the rows. The effect is that the fields have little green lines where the seed is planted and nothing in between the lines. Personally I like the randomness of broadcasting food plots. The green carpet look let’s you hunt much later. what about a nurse crop?
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: jaredhunts]
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12/29/19 05:59 PM
12/29/19 05:59 PM
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Posts: 805 Lower AL
Cynical
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I have a no-till drill and I HATE food plots planted with it. They look shitty to me because there are these awesome little 7.5” rows of green stubble eaten down to ground level, with nothing in the middle until the next green row. The deer eat the young green growth LONG before it can crown over and fill in between the rows. The effect is that the fields have little green lines where the seed is planted and nothing in between the lines. Personally I like the randomness of broadcasting food plots. The green carpet look let’s you hunt much later. Cant you cross cross the field? I suppose, but no till coulters tear up the ground pretty well so by cross hatching your runs you are substantially disturbing the seeds you just rolled in on other passes. If I adjust the planting position to keep the coulters out of the ground more the seed openers aren’t as consistent rolling along the ground which affects the furrow.
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: Semo]
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12/29/19 07:27 PM
12/29/19 07:27 PM
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Posts: 805 Lower AL
Cynical
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I have a no-till drill and I HATE food plots planted with it. They look shitty to me because there are these awesome little 7.5” rows of green stubble eaten down to ground level, with nothing in the middle until the next green row. The deer eat the young green growth LONG before it can crown over and fill in between the rows. The effect is that the fields have little green lines where the seed is planted and nothing in between the lines. Personally I like the randomness of broadcasting food plots. The green carpet look let’s you hunt much later. what about a nurse crop? Like what, in the winter time? I’ve put rye grass in with fertilizer and done that, but I don’t think deer eat much rye grass and the fancy little mowed down rows of wheat, oats and clover don’t make me particularly happy. I just like the seed more randomized for green fields I’m hunting over.
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: Cynical]
#2997367
12/29/19 10:31 PM
12/29/19 10:31 PM
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Posts: 5,209 Georgia and Missouri
Semo
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I have a no-till drill and I HATE food plots planted with it. They look shitty to me because there are these awesome little 7.5” rows of green stubble eaten down to ground level, with nothing in the middle until the next green row. The deer eat the young green growth LONG before it can crown over and fill in between the rows. The effect is that the fields have little green lines where the seed is planted and nothing in between the lines. Personally I like the randomness of broadcasting food plots. The green carpet look let’s you hunt much later. what about a nurse crop? Like what, in the winter time? I’ve put rye grass in with fertilizer and done that, but I don’t think deer eat much rye grass and the fancy little mowed down rows of wheat, oats and clover don’t make me particularly happy. I just like the seed more randomized for green fields I’m hunting over. I don't disagree. I prefer broadcasting my wheat and oats too. I was thinking summer and saving beans or peas before they eat them down. Though I did a fall broadcast of sunflower and turnips with my oats this year and I think it turned out ok. On some experimental plots we planted strips of rye, wheat, and oats. the deer ate in order the oats then rye and finally the wheat. Since then I only use wheat when I am trying to keep my costs low.
Last edited by Semo; 12/29/19 10:32 PM.
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: SharpSpur]
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01/01/20 09:53 AM
01/01/20 09:53 AM
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Posts: 9,712 Cleburne
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I would love to have a drill but for 20 something acres of pasture & a food plot I cant justify the expense.
"When you've stared down the barrel of a shotgun in your own home, 3rd & 20 don't seem too bad"......Ken "Snake" Stabler
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: SharpSpur]
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01/02/20 03:14 PM
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Goatkiller
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I don't use a real drill with row spacing for a food plot mix because I also don't like the little rows. I prefer to broadcast and like the green carpet look as well. I have drilled into a clover plot and had good results but the drill gets used to plant things like peas and beans, etc. Not a food plot mix.
I have seen these other planting attachments that are not really drills they are truly seeders and they appear to do pretty well.
What I am talking about is something like those Brillion Seeders that have 2 rows of packers and they meter the seed down in between the packers. If anyone has ever used one of those chime in about it. I know there are many small versions on the market people like Woods make and sell as food plot seeders but I don't have much experience with small stuff like that. I don't do 5-6 foot anything. Brillion makes some big ones on transport wheels and I have contemplated getting one.
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: SharpSpur]
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01/03/20 09:27 PM
01/03/20 09:27 PM
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therealhojo
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Re: School me on Grain Drills
[Re: Goatkiller]
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01/10/20 03:34 PM
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Posts: 5,150 Satsuma, AL
Robert D.
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Posts: 5,150
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I don't use a real drill with row spacing for a food plot mix because I also don't like the little rows. I prefer to broadcast and like the green carpet look as well. I have drilled into a clover plot and had good results but the drill gets used to plant things like peas and beans, etc. Not a food plot mix.
I have seen these other planting attachments that are not really drills they are truly seeders and they appear to do pretty well.
What I am talking about is something like those Brillion Seeders that have 2 rows of packers and they meter the seed down in between the packers. If anyone has ever used one of those chime in about it. I know there are many small versions on the market people like Woods make and sell as food plot seeders but I don't have much experience with small stuff like that. I don't do 5-6 foot anything. Brillion makes some big ones on transport wheels and I have contemplated getting one.
The Brillion cultipacker style works well on fields that have been sprayed way ahead and are in SANDY SOIL. If you walk in the field and don't make a footprint, that type machine will NOT plant, it'll just spread. The heavy clay soil on our lease renders them useless IMHO. The best thing I've seen for weight/cost ratio would be a Kasco EcoDrill. It has the same limitations as the above mentioned Deere No Till drills in that it has openers spaced well apart. We tried Throw and Mow on the club I'm in and it nearly got me excommunicated. I thought it worked well myself, but the Peanut Gallery didn't like the looks of all the dead material still standing in the plots.
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